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Justintime
#1 Posted : 1/28/2019 4:11:48 AM
I just can't stop thinking about mycelium and all these extraction teks.
I am curious how mycelium will react as it eats it's way through mhrb or others. Will it grab the molecule and carry it up to its fruits or will it leave it in place as it takes everything else forming the precious mushrooms. I would like to make a special cake to see what happens. Test the mushrooms and at the end of it all to an extraction on the exhausted cake... I feel good things are coming
.....Your....head...is..in.your(head0daeh)ruoy.ni..si...deah....ruoY.....
 
FranLover
#2 Posted : 1/29/2019 12:40:50 AM
If you do this you satisfy my curiosity as well Smile I hope so. I hope that we can discover what is left to be discovered. And even if it fails its fun!
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red291113
#3 Posted : 1/30/2019 2:58:56 PM
This is an Awesome idea..So much so,that I am willing to do the same and document all data to share with my Nexian Friends Smile
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Justintime
#4 Posted : 1/30/2019 9:25:33 PM
red291113 wrote:
This is an Awesome idea..So much so,that I am willing to do the same and document all data to share with my Nexian Friends Smile

Yes and with different strains.
I would say split a hundred grams then do that half pint PF Tek
Put 50 grams and 1/2 pint and and the other half pint normal mycelium
Do an extraction on the other 50 g and compare all the differences then you'll know how much versus how much
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Hotspur922
#5 Posted : 1/30/2019 9:28:50 PM
can't wait for the results
 
Justintime
#6 Posted : 1/30/2019 9:42:31 PM
First will be golden teacher 8oz with 50g mhrb pf tek
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red291113
#7 Posted : 1/31/2019 1:57:19 PM
DealSmile ...
I will start the process this weekend,using 50g Powdered MHRB..I'll do 1 half pint with,and 1 half pint without..Both using the exact same Mycelium..I'll most likely use GT also,but possibly Burma..idk yet,,then upon fruiting,we can all see the results, and dissect anything interesting Big grin ,,then I'll also do and Extraction with the MHRB powder/grain upon finishing the Fruiting phase...I'll make sure to take pics of each step..This is so interesting to me ,to see for myself how this goes...Positive vibes,and Love to all..Have a great day guys/gals Cool
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endlessness
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#8 Posted : 1/31/2019 4:20:30 PM
There is some evidence that mushrooms will biotransform some molecules added to the substrate by 4-hydroxilating then, i think it was a research by someone named Garz or similar. Benz made some tests on it too I think, im on my phone now but can post some links later if nobody did. In the case of dmt, 4-hydroxilating simply would make it psilocin in theory but im not sure if that means youd have more potent mushrooms, if it would work this way.

Another thing to consider is potential anti-fungical properties of dmt might kill mycelium, but thats just speculation.

Let us know the results.
 
Th Entity
#9 Posted : 1/31/2019 4:34:08 PM
Maybe even break the mhrb cells (dry/wet freeze/thaw) before adding mycelium to it, i dont know if its going to help but i dont think its going to hurt either. Great idea.

What about watering succelents with dmt salt/maoi water, if they dont die that could also work, when i was kid i would put few drops of dye into my mom flower vase the water would change color and after few days the plants flowers change color too.
 
Justintime
#10 Posted : 2/1/2019 10:05:34 AM
endlessness wrote:
There is some evidence that mushrooms will biotransform some molecules added to the substrate by 4-hydroxilating then, i think it was a research by someone named Garz or similar. Benz made some tests on it too I think, im on my phone now but can post some links later if nobody did. In the case of dmt, 4-hydroxilating simply would make it psilocin in theory but im not sure if that means youd have more potent mushrooms, if it would work this way.

Another thing to consider is potential anti-fungical properties of dmt might kill mycelium, but thats just speculation.

Let us know the results.


All hype for now but if the results of this show that the mycelium does convert the molecule this may open up some interesting doors to also experiment with melatonin. That old silk tree may become useful after all lol
.....Your....head...is..in.your(head0daeh)ruoy.ni..si...deah....ruoY.....
 
Loveall
Chemical expertSenior Member
#11 Posted : 2/1/2019 4:42:55 PM
Hello Justintime. This topic is being discussed here, not sure if you have seen that yet. Benz may be able to shed more light on the melatonin addition if he can troubleshoot his MS.

Note that benzyme has confirmed increase yields when adding tryptamine to the substrate (and no improvement with tryptophan). Also, as we understand the mushroom enzymatic process, DMT to psilocybin may be possible as endlessness said.

One word of caution is to be careful with bufo/yopo/5-HTP doping of mushroom substrates. Double -OH substituted tryptamines may cause problems, so until we know more I would not pursue this line of research.

Cheers.

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