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Smoker root
#1 Posted : 1/27/2019 8:50:39 PM
Okay so I am going to do my first trip in a couple of weeks. I am going to take sometida time to read, meditate and un general think peacefully to asure a good trip. I saw that the use of harmalas was a real concideration to start tripping, however un muy first trip I don't want to go really deep I am just planning doing 5mg.
I was thinking of vamping it with the machine metjod heating it up with a blue flame cooking torch
Being alone un the house with some jazz playing
Taking weed instead of harmalas or nota taking anything at all
Doing 5mg
And having sometida trippy posters around

Anything you would recomendó to add to improve expirience? Take note that this is going to be my first psycodelic(well i tried salvia 10x 1 hit for 40s, but it was just that I thaugt the room was moving, and made more thoughtfull and imaginative.) However i heard dmt makes you look everithing pixeles and all of that so I want yo start low.
 
MeecroHyperion
#2 Posted : 1/29/2019 7:13:18 AM
It depends on the dose, and the person.
5mg won't be noticeable, imho. A flowery taste.

20-30 mg You "feel" different, perhaps feel a "headband" around your temples. Vision can be distorted(pixelated as you say), everything feels "bigger".

30-50 mg Feeling very different. Open-eyed vision quite distorted. Closed eyed visuals spectacular. low-level auditory hallucination. Dimensions can seem to fold into one another. Sense of self can seem to seep away, which can feel good, bad or both at the same time.

50-75 mg Not quite feeling human any more. Control over thoughts is lost. Attempts at control can lead to distress. Full distortion of the visual field. Closed eye super-spectrum explosions of light and meaning. Dissolution of the ego-self beginning. The brain hemispheres can begin acting like separate individuals, and SWIM has found this to be most disturbing. At this stage one is a passenger.

75-150 mg All bets are off. The dose for "breakthrough" is personal. Body-consciousness is lost. Reality dissolves, to be replaced by ... something else. This will be your entire reality for the duration of the effect. There is no question that wherever you may find yourself, you are there, not anywhere else. Where you go seems determined deep in the subconscious, thus the importance of set and setting. You may meet other beings, and whether or not they are truly external to you or "merely" artifacts of your subconscious doesn't really matter.

If you plan on taking a larger dose, you really have to have a "sitter" to make sure you don't hurt yourself while body-unconscious. You might walk into a door, or into a river, or choke should you vomit.

Good luck on your journey, and Namaste.
"And the dancers were deemed insane by those who could not hear the music" ~ Friederich Nietsche | meecro's intro
 
ridnovir
#3 Posted : 1/30/2019 2:58:25 PM
I say 0.025-0.030 is plenty IMHO.
 
Smoker root
#4 Posted : 1/30/2019 4:40:16 PM
MeecroHyperion wrote:
It depends on the dose, and the person.
5mg won't be noticeable, imho. A flowery taste.

20-30 mg You "feel" different, perhaps feel a "headband" around your temples. Vision can be distorted(pixelated as you say), everything feels "bigger".

30-50 mg Feeling very different. Open-eyed vision quite distorted. Closed eyed visuals spectacular. low-level auditory hallucination. Dimensions can seem to fold into one another. Sense of self can seem to seep away, which can feel good, bad or both at the same time.

50-75 mg Not quite feeling human any more. Control over thoughts is lost. Attempts at control can lead to distress. Full distortion of the visual field. Closed eye super-spectrum explosions of light and meaning. Dissolution of the ego-self beginning. The brain hemispheres can begin acting like separate individuals, and SWIM has found this to be most disturbing. At this stage one is a passenger.

75-150 mg All bets are off. The dose for "breakthrough" is personal. Body-consciousness is lost. Reality dissolves, to be replaced by ... something else. This will be your entire reality for the duration of the effect. There is no question that wherever you may find yourself, you are there, not anywhere else. Where you go seems determined deep in the subconscious, thus the importance of set and setting. You may meet other beings, and whether or not they are truly external to you or "merely" artifacts of your subconscious doesn't really matter.

If you plan on taking a larger dose, you really have to have a "sitter" to make sure you don't hurt yourself while body-unconscious. You might walk into a door, or into a river, or choke should you vomit.

Good luck on your journey, and Namaste.


I think you taller of taking the orally, what I read was that becore smokimg DMT you shouldn't take harmalas to chill before have a Nice trip. I was asking if instead of harmalas I could use weed. And if you recomend something for someone mes like, new generally un psicodelics
 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#5 Posted : 1/30/2019 4:59:29 PM
I'd say don't bother with the weed. Your choice tho.

MeecroHyperion, your dose suggestions look rather on the high side.

20mg has been known to produce breakthrough experiences when skilfully vaporised.




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
MeecroHyperion
#6 Posted : 1/31/2019 3:50:16 AM
Quote:
I was asking if instead of harmalas I could use weed. And if you recomend something for someone mes like, new generally un psicodelics
Sorry. My mistake. Whatever relaxes you, will make the experience more comfortable.

Weed may cause anxiety and interfere with memory and comprehension, but everyone's different. The worst trip SWIM has seen in someone else was in combination with alcohol. Avoid. Nitrous oxide(cream bulbs) have been used with some success for pre-flight jitters. Imho, meditation on things which make you happy works well.

ridnovir and downwardsfromzero are right. With the right vaporizer and technique, a little can go a long way. SWIM probably has neither. Start small and cheerful and find your own levels. This is not a toy, but it can be fun Smile
"And the dancers were deemed insane by those who could not hear the music" ~ Friederich Nietsche | meecro's intro
 
Exitwound
#7 Posted : 1/31/2019 7:23:27 AM
For dosage: it depends on potency of your spice and how sensitive you are.

But I suggest starting from 10mg and increment in 5mg, to find your personal comfortable dosage.

Even 10mg had produced mindblowing experiences for some of my particularty sensitive and unfamilier with psychedelic friends.

At 5mg of freebase you probably will just feel taste and some body load, slightly brighter colours.

Regarding weed, I used to trip very frequently while VERY high on weed, so here are my pros and cons:

Pros
- More mellow comeup
(if you can call that mellow, but compared with harshness of comeup for when sober - earth and sky)
- There might be several peaks and experience will last longer
(I used to have 2-3 "dives" after just one smoking, when I come back, but after some time I can close my eyes and five back in. you will definitely be psychedelic longer after comedown, while on weed)
- It helps with preflight jitters

Cons
- Much harder to remember experiences
- Without weed experiences feel much more crisp and clearn
- Weed adds its own to experience and you tend to be more distracted by sideshows and fireworks, than by actual _meaning_ of experience

In general - weed helps if you want to use spice recreationally. But be warned, after certaing spice dosage threshold it doesn't matter if you are high or not. And spice tends to punish those who use it just to see pretty cartoons, so approach carefully Smile
 
FranLover
#8 Posted : 1/31/2019 8:00:24 PM
You should smoke weed before if you are a proud daily pot head. If you smoke little perhaps best not to use.

Harmalas yes! It will all be meaningless once you have the experience so you wont mind being "drugged out". This is so because fear disapears completley once you are there. Harmalas potentiate dmt. Thanks to harmalas and changa I have had high doses 70mg-80mg with HD visions with eyes closed, yet felt completley myself and relaxed, surfing hyperspace as if watching the best tv ever. This could be so with plain dmt maybe. With harmalas and dmt too.

20-30mg for first time is good.

Be alone and play music that makes you feel warm, loved, and innocent.

Weed 30minutes or so after the experience is the best feeling on Earth. Look at the stars!

Dmt will rock your world! It all about the knowledge that comes through closed eyes so try to smoke enough and with enough vigor so that you get there. If you think you took too much, you took the right dose!
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