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goddard
#1 Posted : 12/31/2017 8:55:48 PM
hi i just came down from a trip...and the last few times its always the same, i feel like this entity is like hello you back , dumbass...now you are here forever and i just see the kaleidoscopic thing and it feels like something is draining me , i see some kind of figure/entitie but never clearly always in the corner somewere...my intention ws set for learning and it kinda mocked me with it learn learn learn but i only saw the same thing , i always feel like there is something behindthe curtain butt it also feels like this is all there is for me ...im glad im not terrified anymore when it feels like im back there forever but its starting to get a bit lame a bit boring hahahah..never thought i would describe that as boring Smile
im starting to wonder if im smoking the right stuff hahah
all the stories i read seem so different then my experience..

im using sandwich method so it might be that idk

will try again later or tomorrow
“Close your eyes and let the mind expand. Let no fear of death or darkness arrest its course. Allow the mind to merge with Mind. Let it flow out upon the great curve of consciousness. Let it soar on the wings of the great bird of duration, up to the very Circle of Eternity.”
― Hermes Trismegistus
 
Senior Member
#2 Posted : 1/1/2018 11:49:08 AM
The sandwich method can take some practice, takes some getting used to. For the sandwich method a small bong is probably one of the better devices [if you're not using one of those already], use ice cold water. Herb layer thickness, strength/speed of the draw/inhale, there are subtleties that can definitely factor in to having a successful experience ime.

If you're having trouble with making/smoking sandwich'd dmt, then i'd suggest a 1:1 herb-dmt enhanced leaf - just load bong, big tokes, a near fool-proof method.

There should be different levels of transition based on which toke you're on (unless you're able to clear out the entire [or most] of the dosage in one hit [which if done right will put you front and center reall quick] Big grin ]

Also, learn to take bigger tokes, and take it deep into the lungs.
 
goddard
#3 Posted : 1/1/2018 11:26:40 PM
thnx for your reply , i will try to make some enhanced leaf tomorrow with the warm water tek
see how that works out for me.

after reading a lot today here , i might have to reconsider my opinion that i haven't broken trough yet..i always thought that breaking trough meant you go trough some wall and enter space an talk with entities and that my experience in the fractaled rooms were i feel like im trapped forever with some entities lurking on the background playing hide and seek or something ( descriptions are so though) is already a breaktrough...

i dont feel a carrierwave or flying sensation its just like boom and im there and thats all that exist for me ...it scared me big time first but now i seem to be able to remind myself i will return to my normal life , although i still doubt it a bit at that moment lol.

ah well im rambling on...gonna try the enhanced leaf from a bong tomorrow and share the result
“Close your eyes and let the mind expand. Let no fear of death or darkness arrest its course. Allow the mind to merge with Mind. Let it flow out upon the great curve of consciousness. Let it soar on the wings of the great bird of duration, up to the very Circle of Eternity.”
― Hermes Trismegistus
 
goddard
#4 Posted : 1/2/2018 4:29:35 PM

well that was a fail Smile

i did a warm water tek to make the enhanched leaf with green tea but i thought it would be a good idea to add some caapi bark..

i filled up my bong , filled up my lungs ...and coughed like hell couldnt keep it in Smile

luckily i only made a bit so i didn't waste a lot of spice, will try again soon
“Close your eyes and let the mind expand. Let no fear of death or darkness arrest its course. Allow the mind to merge with Mind. Let it flow out upon the great curve of consciousness. Let it soar on the wings of the great bird of duration, up to the very Circle of Eternity.”
― Hermes Trismegistus
 
332211
#5 Posted : 1/2/2018 6:01:29 PM
hi goddard,

my last journeys very well mirror yours, also ending up in the same eternal prison with these malicious entities draining my energy.

I stopped dmt completely after that, so kudos to you for trying to go further.

take care!

the aftermath for me includes almost daily thinking about these experiences. my findings:

a. all thought, which deals with either past or future events, take you on a mental movie out of the here and now, which at the end just fuels the ego.

b. the present moment is the only realm, where humans can maneuver peacefully.

b1. if these entities keep us for harvesting energy, they lack something. this makes them vulnerable.

c. i fought some battles with them and: singing and feeling love helps fighting them. after joining a choir i had *mayor* epihanies, that songs with positive intention will be a mayor weapon.

d. following the buddha, all sentinent beings are subject to change. them too, their reality is as unstable as ours.

e. they will lose.

 
Intezam
#6 Posted : 1/2/2018 8:25:50 PM
yeah, while you can smoalk caapi leaf, caapi bark will make you cough...
Try wait until the need to smoalk (aka the call) reaches critical mass.
Then...try again Wink Beda Paar!
 
goddard
#7 Posted : 1/3/2018 2:43:58 PM
he 332211

thnx for your reaction ,

As a beginner on this journey i am still trying to figure out for myself if this is all in my mind or that these entities really exist.
i will definitely try out singing/thinking love vibrations in case i encounter a similar environment next time i smoke.

i tend to believe that these trips come from my own malevolent thoughts and actions and mindsets, not that i am an evil criminal being , but i can be negative cynical and harsh and angry towards others and myself mostly not out loud but i am not always a loving ego free person that is for sure

also i like to make sick jokes turning "bad "things into humor which not everybody can appreciate altho its often funny to me and my friends tho Smile but sometimes i wonder if these jokes altho i dont mean them are more toxic then i tend to believe..

maybe these trips project my fear of being punished in hell for my sins ( not religious but he these concepts still have an impact i ques )

so maybe these entities feed on my negative vibration or maybe they are helping me clear them out

and then maybe its all just some weird mind glitch im trying to attach meaning to that is not there..

i hope i will find out what this is all about , the dmt the trip consciousness and hope that the answers i get will improve my life and the life of the people i encounter..


and intezam ..the call is there not sure yet when the conditions are right to answer , might be in a hour might be in a week Smile
“Close your eyes and let the mind expand. Let no fear of death or darkness arrest its course. Allow the mind to merge with Mind. Let it flow out upon the great curve of consciousness. Let it soar on the wings of the great bird of duration, up to the very Circle of Eternity.”
― Hermes Trismegistus
 
 
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