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exquisitus
#1 Posted : 9/1/2017 9:12:54 PM
31 August 2017
Will psychedelics for depression be just another false dawn?

Mind-bending street drugs are increasingly being hailed as potent antidepressants. Will they live up to the claims, ask Colin Hendrie and Alisdair Pickles

 
Psilosopher?
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#2 Posted : 9/1/2017 10:30:26 PM
Since when are psychedelics "street drugs"?

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null24
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#3 Posted : 9/2/2017 2:41:50 AM
Psilosopher? wrote:
Since when are psychedelics "street drugs"?


Circa 1967c.e.

That's the problem we are trying yup rectify.Wink

A link would be nice, I'd like to read the article. I'll have to find it. As long as it's not oppositional hyperbole,it may raise some genuine points. I think a lot of us, self very much included, tend to be apologetic when it comes to psychedelics. We are very careful,due to the stigma indicated in the articles title, to not cast any unflattering light upon the subject.

I chalk it up to disillusionment with people rather than the substances, along with simple growth and evolution of ideology, that I'm giving them more scrutiny lately.

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OrionFyre
#4 Posted : 9/2/2017 6:19:19 AM
null24 wrote:
A link would be nice, I'd like to read the article.

It's behind a signup wall: https://www.newscientist...?utm_campaign=RSS%7CNSNS

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downwardsfromzero
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#5 Posted : 9/6/2017 9:27:53 AM
They interviewed Robin Carhart-Harris the previous week. I would imagine they saw it fit to 'create balance in their reportage', for whatever reason.

Pickles shares a surname with a notoriously right-wing judge, FWIW.

They are comparing apples with oranges, too. About 40% of patients respond to placebo as well as to a course of (e.g.) SSRI antidepressants, with all their attendant side-effects (weight gain, anhedonia, cardiac effects, difficult-to-dangerous cessation, etc.) whereas 42% of subjects respond to a single dose of psilocybin. No wonder big pharma is opposed to the erosion of their customer base.

I'm looking forward to the studies on mescaline which should one day take place.




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― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
 
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