Hey all,

I'm just curious about your experiences on DMT extracted from Acacia Confusa root bark vs Mimosa Hostilis. I've only smoked DMT coming from Acacia, about 20 or so times, and don't believe I have had a true breakthrough yet. I read lots of experiences talking about complete ego death, seeing entities, etc. I have a few friends that have told me that DMT extracted from Acacia is just not the same. What are your thoughts?

My smoking technique is with a small oil rig, no water, with one hit just when the nail goes from red to colorless. I always get an incredibly heavy body load, with visuals that compare in intensity to CEV's from a heavy acid or mushroom trip. I have even pushed it to 90 mg's with an intense experience but all the while only seeing flashing colors and some swirling patterns.

DMT is DMT no matter where it is extracted from, assuming steps were taken to make it relatively pure. The only difference in Acacia is that it contains a lot of NMT so if steps were not taken to remove the NMT, it can make for a mild experience (or trips ranging from practically nothing to trips blasting you to the end of the universe due to unknown ratios of DMT vs NMT).

Attn. If you're having a hard time breaking through read this.

Internal, you mention heavy body load. I had the same issue. It was recommended to me that I may be burning the crystals instead of proper vaping. Try taking a hit with a cooler temp if you can using your oil rig. I'm not sure how those work, but I reduced my wattage by almost half and got zero body load and got nailed. Perhaps if you can let your rig cool for a bit longer to where it's just hot enough to still vaporize your dmt you will get what you're looking for.

If you try, post the results. I'm curious as to whether or not that is what's keeping you from getting a strong experience.

I know without question that dmt extracted from acacia is potent enough to initiate a breakthrough experience every time. I've smoked acacia extract at least 60-70 times and have broken through on pretty much all of these occasions. In addition to this, all of my close friends have broken through multiple times with acacia extracts. It seems that you're smoalking of inefficiently. id recommend letting your nail cool longer, taking a larger hit (or hits) or possibly rigging up a "machine" for yourself using a glass bottle and a piece of Brillo pad (instructions on this forum somewhere)

Extract from both and see for yourself, it's what i did.

The guy on the video says he has never met anyone who has had a bad trip from DMT extracted from mimosa? That is a rather absurd statement. He also says that DMT from Acacia is off white to yellow, which is certainly not always the case. You can absolutely get bright white, "mimosa-like" crystals from Acacia. There are examples all over this website, including extractions I've performed myself.

I'll say it again for the sake of clarity: the DMT molecule is the same DMT molecule we look for in any of the DMT containing plants. The difference in experience is due to personal biochemistry, purity of the DMT itself, and the dosage used.

I highly doubt anyone would be able to truly tell the difference between purified DMT from Acacia vs Mimosa. I encourage anyone to extract from both, take measures to produce a pure product and then do blind tests. Have a friend load up a dose for you while you remain blindfolded and then see if you can tell the difference between the two.

My first breakthrough was from red/orange goo extracted from Acacia. Since then, I've had breakthroughs from both Acacia and Mimosa (ranging from goo to wax to crystals of various colors) and I cannot tell the difference. All I know is that DMT feels like DMT and when it hits you with the force of a breakthrough, where it came from ceases to matter.

I also got white fluffy dmt from acacia but It took a few extra steps. Most people don't do those extra steps. Even if you manage to get pure dmt from acacia the mimosa plant is still easier to work with. If I had to pick one it would be mimosa but I love them both.

I agree. Mimosa definitely has less fats and oils in comparison to Acacia, making it easier to achieve white crystals with less steps during the extraction.

I think you are burning it.. if you are talking about red hot to white. I would a try a machine.

I dont believe that I'm burning it, as the vapor is relatively smooth and pleasant tasting.

Something that I neglected to mention was that my DMT is somewhat of a light tan crystal/wax mix. One of my pulls came out as fluffy why crystals, some around 1/4 inch in length.

I'll get an infrared thermometer and a carb cap at some point this week and experiment.