Hello Friends,

If you haven't already seen it, there is a rather dire warning on Erowid's site about some bad 2-C-B-Fly that is causing deaths in Amsterdam and California. It comes from a research chemical company in China and is labelled "b1."

Here is the link: http://www.erowid.org/ch...fly/2cb_fly_death1.shtml

Peace & Love,
Pandora

it's not bad 2CB-Fly, or even 2CB-Fly at all (look at the mass spectra caption)

it's Bromo-D-fly

They are the same thing.

no, they're not.
2-CB-Fly has an ethylamine moeity, Bromo-D-Fly has an isopropylamine.

Bromo-D-Fly is about 10X more potent, and the duration is much longer.

You wouldn't happen to work at a research chemical distributor, would you?

FAIL / damn my bad

Even though it's we're not suppose mention rc vendors, i think in this case it might be appropriate. Anyone who has puchased this chem, should not take it. the owner of hauptrc, died from his own product, and who know's what other companies he was selling to.

Someone gave me some good advice, that if you ever buy a synth, skin test it,or just test 1mg before going all the way.

This is scary shit. a chemist can make a simple mistake by mis labeling something, which can result in multiple deaths.

I've heard nothing but bad news about bromo-dragonfly so far.

I don't like the notion of importing RC's from china as well. In china, the general consensus about consumer-safety, especially i think with semi-legal goods, is somewhat different then in most western countries.

We all remember the milk scandal, i think, where all these babies died because some company sold milk that was diluted with some cheap chemical that also had a white colour.

Well in all fairness the guys responsible for that one were executed. But I agree that China is a good example of why industry regulation is a necessity.

Did he really? Do you have a link to the story on that? Would be interested to read it.

http://www.drugs-forum.c.../showthread.php?t=103538

I apoligize to everyone, i should have posted this sooner......my head has been elsewhere.

mislabeling = really bad

this is akin to mistaking 5-MeO-AMT for AMT, and insufflating it as such. the result could be disasterous

imagine 5-meo-dmt for dmt O_O

SWIM did that one time. He smoked 30 mg of 5-MeO-DMT in one shot thinking it was DMT. It was probably the single most frightening experience of SWIM's life. Fortunately 5-MeO-DMT doesn’t last that long. SWIM would never take that much on purpose. There was nothing in the experience that was positive. It was like being made temporarily insane. Nothing made sense. It was complete mental chaos, with no visions to make it even worth while. A terrible, terrible experience. It was like putting SWIM’s brain in a blender. Complete madness for 10 minutes and then thankful it came to an end. It’s nothing “psychedelic” at all at that does. Your brain is so fucked up that nothing makes sense, so any “psychedelic” effect would not even be noticed. It’s complete “mind fuck” and I cannot imagine anyone liking it at all at that dose, but apparently some people do!

that would be overwhelming too, but the AMT/5-MeO-AMT could be even more catastrophic.
AMT is an MAOI, and 5-MeO-AMT is much more potent

Br-Bromo-D-fly has an alpha-methyl (amphetamine) and also has aromatic furan rings whereas 2c-b fly has no alpha methyl (phenethylamine) and has saturated (non-aromatic) "wings" (tetrahydrofuran rings).

This was a really bad mix up. It is really terrible and it could have been much worse. Luckily information was made available in a rapid manner via the internet. This definitely saved lives.

great more deaths linked with rc sites ;[