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Dissolving DMT in Rue tea Options
 
maranello551
#1 Posted : 10/31/2016 2:29:22 PM
I hear of people just dissolving freebase or salted dmt into their caapi brews during reduction......can this be done effectively with Syrian Rue tea? Why have I not heard of this yet?
 
Nathanial.Dread
#2 Posted : 10/31/2016 2:42:10 PM
Freebase DMT will not dissolve in water, so that won't work anyway. That's why you transfer your freebase into a non-polar solvent and then evap.

Different salts have different solubilities in water, but in theory that should work. You're just making a very simple ayahuasca.

Blessings
~ND
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
entheogenic-gnosis
#3 Posted : 10/31/2016 2:53:12 PM
As free base DMT is not water soluble, You would first need to convert the non-protonated DMT free-base into a salt form by reaction with an acid, so with HCL you get the hydrochloride salt, with citric acid you get the citrate salt and so on...


-eg
 
maranello551
#4 Posted : 10/31/2016 4:50:24 PM
entheogenic-gnosis wrote:
As free base DMT is not water soluble, You would first need to convert the non-protonated DMT free-base into a salt form by reaction with an acid, so with HCL you get the hydrochloride salt, with citric acid you get the citrate salt and so on...


-eg


Yeah, but I would already be brewing the rue with a tad of vinegar, or lemon.....would that not suffice?

Does every rue brew not have tannic acid in it anyway?
 
Nathanial.Dread
#5 Posted : 10/31/2016 5:47:42 PM
maranello551 wrote:
entheogenic-gnosis wrote:
As free base DMT is not water soluble, You would first need to convert the non-protonated DMT free-base into a salt form by reaction with an acid, so with HCL you get the hydrochloride salt, with citric acid you get the citrate salt and so on...


-eg


Yeah, but I would already be brewing the rue with a tad of vinegar, or lemon.....would that not suffice?

Does every rue brew not have tannic acid in it anyway?

Are you suggesting that the acid in the tea would automatically protonate the DMT?

That's a really interesting question, I imagine it depends on the concentration and pKas of the protons in question. As an example water can donate protons under certain conditions, but will not automatically protonate freebase DMT.

Try it and see - science is all about experimentation after all.

Blessings
~ND
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
 
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