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I'm going to be injected with DMT in the name of science Options
 
Bancopuma
Senior Member
#1 Posted : 10/12/2016 7:26:43 PM
Hello Nexus,

Some news I thought some of you may also find interesting...a friend is helping fund an upcoming IV DMT brain imaging study being conducted by Imperial College London. His friend is the PhD student spearheading it, under the supervision of Dr Robin Carhart-Harris and Professor David Nutt. The study will be investigating the effects of different dosages of DMT on the brain via EEG and fMRI. I'm signed up for the pilot study...two study days, a week apart, in November. On one day I will receive the placebo (IV saline), the other I will receive my allocated dose of IV DMT, and obviously I don't know which order I shall receive them.

Have to say, think I'll be nervous on the day. But a pretty amazing opportunity and I'll be sure to document my experience and share it here. I think another Nexian may also be "on the bus", but I've not heard from him in a little while, if he reads this maybe he could chime in?

In other related news, I am trying to make arrangements for a follow up brain imaging study on 5-MeO-DMT by the same team...it seems the DMT study protocol can be adapted for a 5-MeO-DMT study, and I think this compound will be a really interesting one to research, having received even less scientific attention to date than DMT, and the Imperial team are probably the best people in the world to undertake such a study. The Imperial team are pretty interested in psychedelics on how they affect the ego, and it seems 5-MeO might be a great tool with this in mind, given its great efficacy for ego dissolution. Speaking to David Nutt and other members of the Imperial team, it seems they are keen to conduct such a study (with a study protocol in development), and my friend seems interested in supporting it, and I've spoken to the Beckley Foundation who help sponsor a lot of Imperial's psychedelic research here in the UK, and they too seem keen especially with a co-funder on board.

So watch this space! Thumbs up
 
smoothmonkey
#2 Posted : 10/12/2016 7:38:54 PM
Exciting news man, what an opportunity!

I'm definitely curious to hear the trip report. Happy and safe journey to you! Thumbs up
असतो मा सद्गमय ।
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय ।
मृत्योर्मा अमृतं गमय ।
 
obliguhl
Senior Member
#3 Posted : 10/12/2016 8:53:58 PM
It makes me happy to hear that you will have this tremendous opportunity real soon.
Not many people will have the chance of experiencing IV DMT in a safe environment. The fact that you will be able to compare routes of administrations is very valuable. I only wish you the best of luck and will watch this space for updates Smile
 
ModeratorSenior Member
#4 Posted : 10/12/2016 9:13:10 PM
Super cool. I want to hear your experience when it's all said and done. Cool
 
Cognitive Heart
#5 Posted : 10/12/2016 9:32:27 PM
Very interesting and what a great opportunity! I wish you well in this endeavor. As above folks have already stated, I too look forward to this report. Not many people get that chance for rigorous/scientific and dose-dependent experiences. Nervousness is a good sign. Smile

Safe travels.
'What's going to happen?' 'Something wonderful.'

Skip the manual, now, where's the master switch?

We are interstellar stardust, the re-dox co-factors of existence. Serve the sacred laws of the universe before your time comes to an end. Oh yes, you shall be rewarded.
 
brilliantlydim
#6 Posted : 10/12/2016 10:04:32 PM
What if there is no discernible difference between the placebo and the DMT?
Big grin
 
null24
Welcoming committeeModerator
#7 Posted : 10/12/2016 10:49:27 PM
Wow, cool. It will be very interesting to read your reports on participating in this study.

I echo your sentiments regarding 5meo DMT, and would love to see attention paid to this compound by the scientific community. It is stirring up a lot of interest in the new age community, it would be nice to balance that out; i feel personally that it is one of the most important ones out there far s is potential to effect life changing benefits tfor its user.

Definitely keep us posted and we'll informed on this.Thumbs up
Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
*γνῶθι σεαυτόν*
 
Nathanial.Dread
#8 Posted : 10/12/2016 11:08:19 PM
That's an amazing opportunity - I cannot wait to see the published results.

I had hoped I might be able to get my PhD at the Imperial College, but sadly, it wasn't a realistic possibility. Still hoping that maybe I can get over there one day as a post-doc, or maybe, one day in the far future, as a faculty member Twisted Evil

Blessings
~ND
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
Mitakuye Oyasin
#9 Posted : 10/12/2016 11:23:10 PM
Fantastic! Safe journeys.
Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous.
— Terence McKenna


All my posts are hypothetical and for educational/entertainment purposes, and are not an endorsement of said activities. SWIM (a fictional character based on other people) either obtained a license for said activity, did said activity where it is legal to do so, or as in most cases the activity is completely fictional.
 
acacian
#10 Posted : 10/12/2016 11:44:20 PM
Best of luck Bancopuma.. really looking forward to hearing of your experience Smile

I'm actually really interested in hearing of people's clinical based experiences who have already had experiences prior.. I remember Nick Sand wrote an interesting article speculating that the setting of the Strassman studies (hospital-like setting with wires and devices everywhere) likely played a part in the inclination to a more extraterrestrial context for some subjects...that was to subjects whom to my knowledge had no prior experience with dmt so it will be interesting what an already experienced psychonaut will experience in this type of setting.

Happy travels to the beyond!
 
DeDao
#11 Posted : 10/13/2016 1:23:04 AM
Where do I sign up?
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
Spaced Out 2
#12 Posted : 10/13/2016 3:20:57 AM
Very awesome indeed, Banco
I can't wait to see the results of this experience.

Will definitely keep an eye on this thread for updates.

Good luck friend Thumbs up
 
pinkoyd
Extraordinary knowledgeSenior Member
#13 Posted : 10/13/2016 3:21:48 AM
I will be eagerly watching this space. Safe travels Bancopuma, and please be sure to keep us apprised of the results. I'm really curious to see the fMRI results; it's the Hubble telescope of neuroscience right now.
I already asked Alice.

 
Psilosopher?
Senior Member
#14 Posted : 10/13/2016 3:45:45 AM
pinkoyd wrote:
I'm really curious to see the fMRI results; it's the Hubble telescope of neuroscience right now.


Not quite infallible.

http://www.sciencealert....arch-scientists-discover
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
 
fathomlessness
#15 Posted : 10/13/2016 4:10:07 AM
Bancopuma wrote:
The Imperial team are pretty interested in psychedelics on how they affect the ego


Awesome! If it is one thing that is needed to be studied scientifically at present, it is the human ego. I also really hope this contributes to legalization in at least one country. If anything it would be great to see DMT used in a psychiatric setting or similar. It would make a lot of people including myself feel a lot more comfortable about the whole thing.

Best of luck Thumbs up Cool

P.S. Keep in mind that during your trip massive magnetic fields and radio frequencies will be pulsating through your entire body, probing the hydrogen nuclei and picking up tiny changes in the blood flow of your brain. Wowza!
 
RAM
#16 Posted : 10/13/2016 5:51:57 AM
I heard Dr. Carhart-Harris speak a few months back, and he seemed incredibly knowledgeable and trustworthy. It's funny because at the talk I went to he briefly mentioned that "a DMT study might be in the works" with a smile, and here I see it has come to fruition!

Good luck - I'm excited to hear the results.
"Think for yourself and question authority." - Leary

"To step out of ideology - it hurts. It's a painful experience. You must force yourself to do it." - Žižek
 
pau
#17 Posted : 10/13/2016 9:40:00 AM
WonderfulThumbs up
WHOA!
 
Jees
#18 Posted : 10/13/2016 9:58:39 AM
I hope you can be of better value than this:
Doc to assistant: Shall we tell it was the placebo?
Twisted Evil Razz

Good luck, quite extra ordinary Thumbs up
 
fathomlessness
#19 Posted : 10/13/2016 1:22:44 PM
^^^ Laughing Laughing Laughing
 
Felnik
#20 Posted : 10/13/2016 7:37:33 PM
Wow that's awesome !! Where do sign up for that
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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