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infid3l
#1 Posted : 11/9/2015 8:06:45 PM
Hello lovely Nexians.

Here is swim's approach, adapted from the Max-Ion Tek.

Using ionized, charged, microparticulated water from a fantastic machine which shall remain unnamed... ph of 4.5 and 11.5 are achieved without additives, tested/confirmed with ph meter. This water is used thru-out the process. muriatic and lye used sparingly to bump ph further.

[Pulverised ACRB Soaked in 4.5 H20-Freeze-Thaw-Heat Bath 1hr] Repeated 3 times

//Glass jar broke in freezer on #3//

All (hopefully) glass removed.
New vessels found, 2L mason jars. Material split evenly between 3 jars.

//Plant matter sat at room temperature for 1 week. (life) - ph tested 1 week later, it has gone up from 4.5 to 5.1 (hmmm) - Experiment continues//

Acidifcation with small amount of muriatic into 50ml of 4.5 water, ph tested in the 50ml until it was found to be 1.0, this was very close to perfect it seems as the ph dropped in the vessels from 5.1/5.1/5 to 2.2/2.2/2.0 respectively.

Heat bath in this version is done by indirect heat, the vessels were placed in pots, which
were filled with water, and left in the radiant heat of a small sauna. Temperature regulated to 54oC in the room, which produces roughly 48oC in the vessels. Left for 8.5 hrs.

The sauna walls are lined with 2 inch thick bricks of salt. The ionic strenghth these give off may help strengthen the bonds in the solution. (major unknown, but it couldn't possibly hurt)

Defat with vm&p nps
Saltification with rock salt (white) ... ph 7 water used for each vessel. 1 L per vessel.

Each vessel is now aprox 1.8L full leaving 100 ml room for base-ing (and 50ml wiggle room for getting ph right), and 50 for pulls)

During basification the same machine is used to produce water with a ph of 11.5, and a v. small amount of lye is used to drop the ph further to the required amount for each vessel. The exact amount varies slightly as the amount of liquid and solids is not equal in all three vessels.

Each vessel tests at a ph of 12/12/12
The vessels are returned to the sauna for a further 2 hr heat bath.

The best currently avaialable solvent is vm&p nps. It is heated in a mason jar by indirect heat before being used for the pulls.

The first pulls are very milky. Pulls 4-6 are less interesting, all are combined into square evap dish with a lid. Lid is left off for while for nps to evap to 50%.

Freeze Precip is currently just begun. Some yields should be known within the next few days.



Thoughts from around the nexusverse?
SWIM is curious about the time left on the counter (after the broken glass) because there could have been some sort of reaction happening already?
SWIM is also curious about others use of these water, has anyone else done this before? does this notation look familiar to anyone? is the backsalting stage still necessary if ionized water can be used instead? Unfortunately no control group was done on this experiment as in SWIM experience, "control" groups when doing this work are rather silly. The plant matter has far too much ability to affect outcomes Pleased

 
cyb
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#2 Posted : 11/9/2015 8:15:31 PM
Interesting!

1st tho...please don't SWIM...it's not necessary here. Wink

As long as the alkaline ph is around 12 or higher (pH11 is sufficient for the reaction but pH12+ is needed for a fuller % count)

Also .... heat bath..no higher that 55C....too hot is bad!

As for water...well, really any water will do...but the more 'ionised' the better (mineral water is good)

Backsalt (mini A/B) if your product is Gooey or loaded with NMT...(depends entirely on your ACRB batch)

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Please do not PM tek related questions
Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
 
infid3l
#3 Posted : 11/9/2015 9:15:30 PM
Thanks @cyb !

I will try to refrain Pleased

A few extra notes:

-Bestine used not vm&p naphtha. (old habits die hard)

-"non-pure" rocksalt used in the salination stage, as it may contain other minerals which could boost ionic bonds o.O

-The temperature inside the glass jars was measured with a laser-temp reader by a friend, readings were apparently 53c during the 8hr acid heat bath. Here's hoping this is far enough under the 55 degree mark not to be damaging.

-Basic heat bath at 48C

-Yield of 5.145gr including some plant fats, mini a/b done to further separate nmt from dmt, 1 final pull with fresh bestine will hopefully pull all those goodies from the fatty soup

-Yielded is between 1.5-2.5%, as orginal plant matter was not weighed.
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