So I am new to the Nexus and I joined because I am finally in the place where I can experiment with Spice and related molecules.

Anyways haha to the point.
I recently started extracting the alkaloids from some Yopo I have.
My tek is one I made myself from househeld materials. Its ghetto but it seems to have worked so far.

I took my Yopo and ground it up (seed casing included for maximum extraction), then I freebased with Calcium Hydroxide (Lime/Pickling Lime). Once the mix was freebased and dry I then broke it up into a powder and added what I believe to be referred to as IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol 70% is what is used). I shook the mix vigorously and then let the Alcohol float to the top and separate from the seed material. I then poured off the Alcohol through a funnel with a cotton ball in the bottom into a mason jar (I made sure to try not to get any of the seed material as not to waste it). Then after that I prepared the seed jar for another pull by adding more Alcohol. The jar with just the Alcohol was set out to evaporate (I forgot to mention that the Alcohol went from clear to a Dark Amber/ Yellow color) for a night. The next day I looked at it and it still had not evaped so I threw it in a pan and added baking soda to the mix and heated in a double boiler set up. After this I reground and tested the product by smoking and it was in fact more potent then smoking Yopo snuff. But the purity was not to my liking so with the other pull I had ready I did another evaporation method. Seeing as I do not have any good quality equipment to my disposal like a hot plate or a legit evaporation dish I took a lava lamp base (without the lava bottle thing, just the light and the base), and a small plate. With these two items Poured off the Alcohol onto the plate which was then placed on the lava lamp base . Within a few minutes (Of not looking at it! haha a watched pot never boils!) it was already noticeably evaporating. Within a few hours I had a semi sticky dark brown to black goo that I then scraped into a ball. Part of the mix I believe to be burnt as I had some black residue left behind. I then proceed to test the mix (I have no idea why I call it that, lol please just go with it haha) by putting a amount alittle smaller than a dime into a homemade freebase pipe. I heated the bottom of the pipe and when I had smoke start coming I slowly started inhaling. I took two hits and quit (I was just potency testing) and boy was I high. Like really high. I felt the "Quietness/Peacefulness" that I always have with Yopo but I did not have the pain that was associated in it. I felt that kind of mentality I have before a trip as well, I would describe it as having a very vivid quality to it, like I can hear my inner voice with such clarity that it resembles how normal sounds would sound.

I do have a few questions though.

For this extraction I did not use a salting acid (like one that you mix into the same type of solution that your alkaloids are in and then pour that solution into your alkaloid solution to make the alkaloids separate out and form crystals). Would it be recommended to use a salting acid like citric acid or fumaric acid before the evaporation process to have this type of reaction?

Whats the recommended solvent for this type of extraction if you wanted to extract all alkaloids existing in it? Are these acids easily attainable from Lowes, Wallmart, or a Swimming Pool Supply store?

In your opinion, is this a alright tec based on the fact that only househeld materials were used?

Thank You For Your Replies! If you have any questions for me feel free to ask!

Apologies about the pictures! I will post them when I have the rights to on the Nexus!

First and foremost welcome to the nexus.
For a full spectrum experience I would suggest acetone ipa or etoh. Ime however not all the alkaloids are desireable. Were your seeds peregrina or colubrina? There is a toasting tek here that Ive had good success with but imho the best tek Ive used is the no smell tek.
In regards to an acid you definitely dont want to smoke the salts -unless you want mainly nausea vasoconstriction -the painful kind that feels like needles and cramping- with virtually no psychedelia... What you want is the freebase for smoking or snorting.

If you choose to purify it further you should try one of these:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=10071
^No smell tek. I swear by it but youll need fumaric acid (to defat, your end product wont be a fumarate salt) acetone and naphtha
Fumaric acid is probably going to be the hardest to find, (I assume youre in america bc of the stores listed) check some wine shops or order it online it is *cheap*

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...n_and_Bufojam_Changa_Tek
^Toasting tek
Its quite likely you already have everything you need for this tek. Ipa is super easy to render annhydrous all you need is an oven (I actually use a microwave) and epsom salt (walmart). The salt is cheap just make sure you get the kind that doesnt hsve any lavender or anything in it.

The product from the first tek is superior ime but the tek is a little advanced... But its still less difficult than making pancakes imho you should be able to handle it if you follow correct safety procedures and read it a couple of times.

There is a third tek but it requires a hot plate and limonene and good luck finding that locally. Also I feel that the no smell tek is superior to it anyway in regards to product purity but what do I know?

If you have questions feel free to ask.

And just out of curiosity why did you add base to your ipa after the pull? If it were me and just bc you asked about your tek I wouldve used 99% ipa instead of 70%. That way youd pull less water solubles and be left with a purer product by weight. I definitely wouldnt inhale lime if I were you and seeing as lime is soluble in water and you had water in your solvent... There is *definitely* lime in your product. Will it vaporize this side of the furnace? No. Will you inhale it when vaporizing your product? Most assuredly.

Thank you for your thoughtful response!
I'm thinking about going for the no smell with the new batch of columbina (or however u spell it) I'm going to be acquiring here soon. The seeds used in this process were perignia.

As for a update on the extraction.
I attempted a defat with white distilled vinegar on one of my pulls (I did it when the seed material was still in the bottom of the jar). I was being un-cautions (goes to show me) and put the lid on forgetting that chemical reactions typically produce a gas of some sorts and it exploded on me. I still saved about half of it (not to mention the pulls of IPA that I had sitting around).
From their I added more Calcium Hydroxide and attempted a freebase (it failed, resulting solution was not reactive to the vinegar) and then I added vinegar and IPA and proceeded with more pulls. I have a few jars full of the stuff but when I strain through a cotton ball funnel filter I seem to have a lot more material suspended in the solution than I would like. Tonight I plan of attempting a few coffee filter detoxes (or something. just pouring through the filter to get rid of the remaining material) where I will take the end result and split to evap (slowly without a hotplate) one and take the other to a boil on a stove without burning the left behind material.
I have also separated my seed material/ ground up stuff from the liquid as much as I can and I am going to let it dry then attempt a freebase again and repeat the process (the right way this time).

I don't believe I will need any advice for the next tek I'm going to attempt (the no smell mentioned above) but I do have a few questions about the results of this one.

So When I evape the solution I end up with this half mix of dust (from the jar with the seed material, hints the need to strain and filter better) and these tiny crystals that are tanish white (the tan may have been from the leftover dust). these crystals were not sticky at all and when snorted they gave a mild short lived stimulant type buzz. Can anyone help me figure out what they were? I can also pull the same crystals off the top of my pulled solution. They form in these waxy glistening sheets that become thicker until they sink back to the bottom of the jar and dissolve back into solution.

Also I evaped a batch and they formed these hard opaque amber yellow brown crystals that were kind of active when smoked but not entirely.

Please dont take this the wrong way but I do believe you need some faq in your life...
Your jar busted probably from pressure or heat. NEVER heat something with the lid on. Also never add a cold or room temp jar to boiling water.
Also you typically do defats with nonpolar solvents (naphtha dcm xylene) not with acids. There is an exception here the fasa conversion in which you have some freebased alkaloid dissolved in dry acetone (ipa works too but it has to be dry) and add acetone that is saturated with fumaric acid dropwise to the solution until it stops clouding (youll need to let it sit so the alkaloids can settle and you can add more to see if it clouds\anything drops out) then pour out the acetone through a filter save the solids discard the liquid. This is not typically referred to as defatting but converting however ime it defats much more effectively than tgan adding naphtha 20x and pulling it off not only that but it wastes less time and material. Bufotenine is soluble in water so doing a defat with vinegar on seeds is counter productive. It will turn them into salts and it will pull them. Hope you saved that vinegar... Im still a little unclear as to how you defatted. But if you do follow the tek make sure you do a bit of reading before hand. Please please please read safe extraction procedures.

Just as a sidenote I wouldnt use lime with the bufotenine as it appears to be unstable with a high ph. I use sodium carbonate. Also with the no smell tek on step 8 I cant ever get any caramel lump to crash out so I would advise mixing the bufotenine fumarate and sodium carbonate up adding just enough water to make it a paste (thoroughly moist but not runny) let it dry out and pull 3x with dry acetone.

I have no idea what your powder is I dont really understand what your doing in your tek. Most likely lime. If you want to salvage it mix with equal parts sodium carbonate pull it with dry ipa or acetone filter and evap. I cant stress this enough dry your solvent before using its not hard just takes a little effort patience and magnesium sulfate.

I implore you to brush up on your chemistry and safety techniques!
Bufo is definitely one of the trickier things to extract.
If you have any questions ask me.

Thank You for your reply!
I'm a bit new at the whole extraction thing. I did once successfully create a citrate for Bufo (Used Citric Acid to crash out alkaloids from acetone solution). The main reason I am limited to acids and alcohol is that I don't have the time (or money) to extract. I guess in a since i'm just screwing around until I come up with a good result. Here recently I took one of my pulls and stuck it in the freezer. (The pull contains water, rubbing alcohol 70%, and vinegar) I waited awhile and when I took the lid off their were little clear white crystals that formed. I got about a dime sized amount and ended up loosing a little over half but they were still potent enough for me to feel effects. It was more of a mental experience at this dose thought.

I guess my main questions regarding this would be what can I do with what I have?
Materials.
Cotton Balls
Plates
Lava Lamp Light
5 Mason Jars, 4 Normal Mouthed, 1 Narrow Mouth.
70% Isopropyl Alcohol.
Distilled White Vinegar
Calcium Hydroxide
Sodium Bicarbonate
and a few other materials around the house.

Right now I have my seed materials separated and all of the previous pulls that were left were filtered several times and put into a 2 clean jars. The solution is Yellow to Dark Amber Brown in color. It smells primarily of alcohol and no more vinegar. I have put one of those jars in the freezer to watch how it reacts. What can I do with what I have?

BTW I know basic chemistry. I didn't want to admit it earlier but I was really stoned when I had the accident with the Jar exploding on me (and I believe I forgot to mention by exploding I mean the lid popped of with a lot of pressure and it was a fountain.)

First things first.
Evap your vinegar/iso mix. If your bufo is in vinegar it will be in salt form. You dont want to have it in salt form (unless its for storage and for that Id recommend a fumarate not acetic bc Im unsure as to the stability of the latter).

Buy some magnesium sulfate.
Bake it to make it annhydrous.
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ydrous_Magnesium_Sulfate

Dry your alcohol the link will work for ipa as well but its for acetone
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...dering_Anhydrous_Acetone

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...dering_Anhydrous_Acetone

I prefer the second one so I dont have to worry about decanting.

If you want to make a thp for it its super easy just make sure your plastic is hdpe
Itll say so on the bottom and have a little triangle w a number 2 in the middle. One of the reasons I said you should brush up on your chemistry (aside from your apparent misunderstanding. of the concept of salt vs freebases) is bc your makeshift filter is not high density polyethylene (hdpe) plastic. I can tell bc hdpe is opaque. And your alcohol will eat through other plastics and you definitely dont want to smoke that. In fact if you have any respect for your body and health you should scrap that goo since it has plastic in it or attempt to clean it up at least but youll need some different acids apart from just acetic. But I digress.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/THP

Convert your sodium bicarbonate to sodium carbonate

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...te_into_Sodium_Carbonate

Mix with your bufo to make a paste, let dry, crush it up to dry faster, pull it 3x with your dry alcohol, and evap. To have your freebase. (Again this is not for bufo but it WILL work for it)
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...reebase_Spice_Conversion



As for cleaning it up what acids do you have access to? Fumaric? Citric?

Im sorta thinking maybe you should go w the toasting tek after all. Bufo is pretty tricky to extract. Just start with a new batch of seeds and unreactive material. Hdpe is super easy to find and Im sure you could even use your iso bottle and put the alcohol in glass. We can work on a clean up of your plastic bufo when you find diff acids. But in the meantime read this.


https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=26324

Also if you think you can more or less handle that and have access to a thermometer and an oven Im sure you could do the toasting tek. Its not hard just smelly.

Hey! Just one quick question right now. I'll ask more here soon when my liquid mix evapes.
Will my Iso / acetic mix pick up any of the plastic material on contact? Or is it just when it sits in contact with it for awhile? I have some of the plastic you are referring to I just haven't used it because it's a good bottle. I can cut it up and use it if the Iso mix does indeed pick up plastic particles on instant contact.
My filter currently takes about 5 minutes for around 200ml.

And apologies on my chemistry. As I said I'm new to most of this stuff and I did take basic chemistry in high school but I don't remember much. The main reason for my using of "ghetto" materials is because the people I live with would ask to many questions. That and if I had the money I would go and buy glassware and more professional materials but my job is not currently paying enough for me to have the proper ammount.

As far as smell goes when I come to the next batch of seeds and the toasting tech, ozium works wonders. I use it anytime I speed evap my solutions. It smells of Yopo (peanut butter and toad smell but like slow roasted) and alcohol. So after I turn off my burner I just put the lid on the pot and spray the area from top to bottom then exit the room for a bit (I guess ozium can cause cancer or some shit).

Sorry I dont think I can help you anymore. Read this. We dont allow unsafe extraction settings and I wont be held responsible for it.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._settings_and_procedures

Haha Thank you for your help so far!

As far as the people who would "ask to many questions" I was referring to. I should have mentioned it earlier. They wouldn't mind at all. I am doing it secret though because their is a person I live with who has wanted to try Bufo, Meo, and DMT for some time now and I was wanting the finished result to be a surprise for her so we can share a experience.

If you can't help me I understand.

If I may still ask one question though, Are Teks considered "Stealth Teks" if the people one is living with don't know about it, but would approve if they did? As I said I am going to be sharing this with my roommies, I just wanted it to be a surprise ya know.

Thank You and have a good day!

I wouldnt expect the 5meo to be in there to be honest... maybe in trace amounts but... not really.

Also I remember reading something about the traveler (the person who more or less owns this site) not wanting teks described as stealth teks. It adds a connotation that is undesireable...

And as far as the plastic I wouldnt risk it... I dont honestly know how long it would take. Do you have any glass bottles you could cut and use as a funnel? Cutting them is actually pretty easy (not to mention cool ). You just need gloves a glass bottle some string a lighter some sort of flammable alcohol and a bucket full of ice and water. Oh yeah and patience its easy once you figure out how tho. First etch the glass lightly where you want it to break. Place whatever tool (some sort of sharp metal object) on an elevated surface and rotate the bottle to scratch it in a uniform manner where you want it cut. Take your (already tied to fit the bottle) string dip it in your alcohol put it on the bottle. Light it (be careful fire is hot ) as soon as it catches on fire all the way around dunk it in your ice bath. The temp shock will break the bottle. Have a few to practice with its not that easy to get this right on the first time (sometimes the bottle cracks around where it breaks too) but once you get it youll see that its easy when you know how, this trick has provided me with glass funnels for free since forever. For the love of all that is safe and wonderful and holy wear gloves and goggles while doing this glass is sharp and some glass behaves differently than others. And while the glass doesnt explode or anything I could see some of it going airbourne if youre not careful... the last thing you need is glass cutting you.. in your eyes. Im sure you know but you can never be too careful.