Hello! I did the Cyb Tek, word for word, on 50g ACRB, and ended up with aboit 600mg of orange DMT goo... Okay, pretty normal I redid the same think on a tea I had made a few months ago (40g ACRB + 10g Rue). I expected that I would be able to extract the DMT and the Harmlas... Once I had all the naphtha in a jar, I did the cleanup steps in the earthwalker Tek. I evaporated the naphtha with a fan (the naphtha that had been syphomed off the basified vinegar) amd got roughly 200mg of whitish goo. Thought that was a low yield, so just for the hell of it, I evaporated the naphtha that I originally syphoned from the vinegar (before the step where you add the NaOH to basify). This is where I yield approx. 2.4g of yellowish goo, smelling very strongly of DMT. That yield couldn't possibly be Harmalas and DMT alone? Plant fats from the Rue maybe? I guess I'l vap it, which should give a powerful experience from the Harmala potentiation? Thanks, and happy voyaging! PH0Man attached the following image(s):  SAM_2284~01.jpg (1,222kb) downloaded 308 time(s).
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PH0Man wrote:...I redid the same think on a tea I had made a few months ago (40g ACRB + 10g Rue). I expected that I would be able to extract the DMT and the Harmlas... If you want the harmalas recovered, first filter tea for all solids to discard. Then right after the basing you could have retrieved harmalas in a filter. Only after that making the naphtha pulls for getting the spice. It's not very clear in your post if you retrieved them separately (harmalas and spice) as suggested. I think you thought pulling harmalas and spice all with the naphta at once? No, the harmalas do not dissolve fine in that.
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Jees wrote:PH0Man wrote:...I redid the same think on a tea I had made a few months ago (40g ACRB + 10g Rue). I expected that I would be able to extract the DMT and the Harmlas... If you want the harmalas recovered, first filter tea for all solids to discard. Then right after the basing you could have retrieved harmalas in a filter. Only after that making the naphtha pulls for getting the spice. It's not very clear in your post if you retrieved them separately (harmalas and spice) as suggested. I think you thought pulling harmalas and spice all with the naphta at once? No, the harmalas do not dissolve fine in that. I thought I could pull them together... But if can't be done, then the high yield if even more mysterious?
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It's pretty early in the morning, but I'm needlessly freaking confused by this. First, if you have a KNOWN amount in this tea of what your trying to recover- 60mg total alks, then what do you think you could have other than some of what you suspect- fats and gunk from the tea. Hmm, maybe it'll make sense after some more coffee and a couple bong hits... Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
*γνῶθι σεαυτόν*
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null24 wrote:It's pretty early in the morning, but I'm needlessly freaking confused by this. First, if you have a KNOWN amount in this tea of what your trying to recover- 60mg total alks, then what do you think you could have other than some of what you suspect- fats and gunk from the tea. Hmm, maybe it'll make sense after some more coffee and a couple bong hits... Indeed I fo hope the coffee and weed help. The 600mg (not 60mg) where in the original extraction. It's the second extraction that yielded 2.6g
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It looks like a decaying brain (or at least what I'd imagine one to look like...)  6.5% yield (not calculating for harmalas) on top of a previous 1.5% seems highly unlikely. Try a mini A/B? “There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." ― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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I think that a lot of your yield consists of Acacia waxes and Rue fats. It almost certainly contains near to zero harmalas. Both freebase and salted harmalas are very insoluble in naphtha, I'm pretty sure of that. It is interesting that you remarked upon a dmt-like smell resulting from the naphtha that was taken off the acidified tea. Would this mean that dmt acetate is somewhat soluble in naptha as well?
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pitubo wrote:I think that a lot of your yield consists of Acacia waxes and Rue fats. It almost certainly contains near to zero harmalas. Both freebase and salted harmalas are very insoluble in naphtha, I'm pretty sure of that. It is interesting that you remarked upon a dmt-like smell resulting from the naphtha that was taken off the acidified tea. Would this mean that dmt acetate is somewhat soluble in naptha as well? It could be, this is what I was wondering. Or perhaps most of the dmt just didnt migrate into the vinegar to become the acetate salt? It seemed to vaporize cleany and at typical freenbase temperature (though I didn't inhale any yet)
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I am not entirely sure what you mean, but here's what I think about this: The dmt in your original tea was likely protonated (salted). the addition of vinegar did not make it less so. It is extremely unlikely for protonated dmt in an (proton-rich) acidic solution to deprotonate into a freebase and move to a nonpolar layer. Back-salting nonpolar solvents with vinegar like it is done in several teks would not work if the above were true.
How did you evaporate the tentative dmt and how did you measure the temperature?
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