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Does DMT change the electron spin resonance in the brain? Options
 
fathomlessness
#1 Posted : 6/26/2015 1:47:19 PM
Does this actually happen?

Terrence Mckenna wrote:
while you're watching this Chrysanthemum, millions and then hundreds of millions of DMT molecules are rushing into these serotonin bond sites in the synaptic cleft and disrupting the serotonin and switching the electron spin resonance signature of these neural junctions in this "other" direction. And then, if you've taken enough DMT you are propelled into this "place." And language cannot describe it - accurately. Therefore I will inaccurately describe it.


Tek wrote:
Dennis claimed that by ingesting enough psilicybin mushrooms a tone could be heard in the head. By using the voice to match the tone heard in the head a certain harmonic resonance occured. Apparently what this would do in theory was permanently bind superconducting psilicybin molecules to DNA after their ESR was dropped to absolute zero by cancelling the electron spin via harmonics. During this time he had one foot on planet earth and one in the cosmos.

Dennis later claimed that what had happened was that they had succeeded in hyper carbolating the DNA molecule, but instead of an instant effect over the entire human population he claimed that 'the stone (philosopher's stone) still needs time to condense into physical reality... we are still a few years off before the discovery of a higher dimension'.


Eschaton wrote:
Dennis Mckenna referred to this as the accelerated vibration of Electron Spin Resonance (a swirling, droning sound often builds up in conjunction with this pressure until it literally consumes your consciousness; it is a symphony of death). It seems to act as a mechanism for convincing consciousness that it is in the act of dying; truly, the experience can be so frightening that the logical conclusion that you come to is that you have just killed yourself.


Richard Gehr wrote:
If Dennis's intuitive theories involving molecule bonding and electron spin resonances were correct, their thinking went, the conjunction of the drugs and certain vocal manipulations would summon the philosopher's stone of Hermetic alchemical lore, recapture paradise, and create an interface with the "memory bank of galactic history.



 
Infectedstyle
#2 Posted : 6/26/2015 2:15:05 PM
As for spiraling, his is a gross creative endeaouver but here goes:

I intent to ask something about a relationship
Smoke the Deems
Spiral/vortex pattern and something in the vortex speaks to me
Around me see basic roundish shapes rhytmically shrink and twist and repeat. Thought it was like cells..
Presence feels demanding. Like a child being teached a lesson by it's angry godfather in heaven.
At the end, feel a force pushing on my "Whatever entails my physical feelings at the time" with the exact force that would match the emotion of the near-by presence. Takes some 5 minutes to return to a normal remembrance of who/where I am. I was confused earlier, thought I was a cell in my brain looking at other cells. Weird.. Rolling eyes Confused

..

I would think that there is some kind of vortex thing going on. Then again, I think everything that has some gravity does make it's own vortex resonance patterns.

DISCLAIMER: Product of Imaginationnn Twisted Evil
 
fathomlessness
#3 Posted : 6/26/2015 2:23:24 PM
Spiraling? What are you refering to? I thought this was about electron spin resonance? What does your trip report have in common with the electron spin resonance?

So you think there is a vortex thing... ok, so gravity and electron spin resonance or whutSurprised

anyone else?
 
dreamer042
Moderator | Skills: Mostly harmless
#4 Posted : 6/26/2015 4:39:14 PM
From The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss:

Dennis Mckenna wrote:
Bear with me here as I introduce another concept. As the “experiment” became clear to me, I understood that the sounds that could be heard on DMT or on mushrooms at high doses were caused by the “electron spin resonance” of the tryptamines metabolizing in the nervous system. Electron spin resonance (ESR), sometimes called electron paramagnetic resonance, is a phenomenon displayed by certain substances that have one or more unpaired electrons. To study the behavior of unpaired electrons, researchers apply an external magnetic field to the electrons and then measure the changes in their “spin quantum numbers” and “magnetic moment.” This technique, known as ESR spectroscopy, resembles the more widely used nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy, in which the spin states of atomic nuclei, rather than electrons, are measured. The ESR “signal” is generated by measuring the difference between the low-and high-energy electrons when microwaves of varying frequencies are applied in a magnetic field of constant strength. The signal can provide information about the energetics of the spin states of the unpaired electrons. The signal’s output is the microwave frequency that generates the “splitting” of the spin states. It is not an audio signal, but it can be expressed as an audio signal, as can any electromagnetic signal if it is channeled through an audio generator.

What I have written above is pretty much all I know about ESR. I didn’t understand the physics or the math behind ESR then, and I don’t understand it now.


Dennis Mckenna wrote:
The Opus can now be summarized briefly:1. The mushroom must be heard.2. The yagé must be charged with the overtonal ESR of the tryptamine via an amplified sound.3. The [illegible] ESR resonance of the tryptamines in the mushroom will be cancelled, and it will drop into [a] superconducting state: the physical matter of the mushroom will be obliterated.4. The superconductively charged psilocybin will pick up the ESR harmonic of the yagé complex: This energy will be instantly and completely absorbed by the 4-D tryptamine template. It will be transferred into the mushroom as a sound and condensed onto the tryptamines as a bonded complex of superconductive harmine-tryptamine-DNA.5. The result will be a material object of fourth-dimensional superconductive matter, that receives and sends messages transmitted by thought, that stores and retrieves information in DNA holographic storage, and that depends on superconductive harmine as a transducer energy source, and superconductive RNA as a temporal matrix. It is now possible to reconstruct the physical-chemical idea metaphor that we have evolved in the process of understanding this phenomenon, i.e., the fourth-dimensional rotation of matter…. It can be explained thus: The tryptamine complex that occurs in the mushroom acts as an antenna for picking up and amplifying the harmonic ESR tones of all tryptophan-derived compounds of all living organisms within its range; since the tryptamine undergoing metabolism is superconductive, this means that its range of reception is theoretically infinite, and the antenna does, to some extent, pick up a signal whose ultimate origin is the totality of living creatures; but since the tryptamine metabolism is carried on within the brain (or mushroom) at a very low voltage level, the antenna behaves as though it were limited, even though it is superconductive. It seems clear therefore that the signal, which in this mushroom and in this ecologically dense area can be discerned so clearly, originates in the ESR resonation of the yagé plant, though perhaps all of the biosphere is picked up and broadcast amplified via the yagé superconductive transducer. This understanding will clarify precisely what will occur at the moment of 4-D warp. Ingesting the yagé harmine will speed up the process of metabolization enough to amplify its ESR tone to an audible level; this ESR tone will harmonically cancel out the ESR tone of the tryptamines within the mushroom, causing it to lose its electric field and snap into a superconducting configuration. The yagé ESR will have keyed the mushroom tryptamines into a superconducting antenna; it is then ready to have the tryptamine-harmine-DNA-RNA compound being metabolized within the body condensed onto its charged template matrix. A microsecond after the mushroom tryptamine has been superconductivity charged, its amplified ESR wave will then cancel out the ESR signals of the tryptamines and beta-carbolines metabolizing in the body, as well as the genetic material. This will cause these compounds to drop into superconducting configuration and bond together, at the exact same time that they bond to the waiting mushroom template. This transfer of superconductive compounds charged within the body to a superconductive template prepared within the mushroom will not occur in 3-D space; no actual physical transfer will be visible, as the organically processed superconductive material will bond itself to the mushroom template through the fourth dimension. The result will be the work of works, that wonder which cannot be told: 4 dimensions captured and delineated in 3-D space. The Stone will be all things, but the elements which, superconductively charged, bind together in the fourth dimension to form it are among the most common natural products, and the function and place of each in the Stone can be understood. The Stone is a solid-state hyper-dimensional circuit that is quadripartite in structure: 1. Tryptamines, first charged in the mushroom to act as a grid-template on which the rest of the circuit is condensed. In the final Stone the tryptamines act as a superconductive antenna to pick up on all cosmic energy in space and time. 2. The superconductively charged harmine complex within the Stone itself will act as its transmitter and energy source. It is interesting to note that the same energy that sustains the antenna circuits in superconductivity will sustain the whole of the device: that energy will be the totality of cosmic energy turned upon itself through the fourth dimension. 3. The third component of the Stone is the DNA bonded to and resonating through the harmine. It will constitute the 4-D holographic memory of the device, and will contain and explicate the genetic history of all species. It will be the collective memory of the device, and all times and places and conceivable forms will be accessible within its matrix. 4. The fourth part of the circuit will be the RNA, which will also be superconductively charged. Through its function of self-replication turned through the fourth dimension, the RNA will be able to act as a 4-D, waveform holographic image, and give physical form instantly to any idea. It will perform the same function it has always had in an organism, the process of replication through time. But this time, replication will be subject to the whim of consciousness. Of course a molecule which breaks itself apart and produces two duplicates of itself has to be functionally without electrical fields and hence is of course superconducting.

Does any of that make sense? It clearly isn’t a carefully defined protocol for a scientific experiment. The words may sound like scientific jargon, but they are nonsense.
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...

Visual diagram for the administration of dimethyltryptamine

Visual diagram for the administration of ayahuasca
 
Nathanial.Dread
#5 Posted : 6/26/2015 5:56:11 PM
We need a facepalm emoji...

Blessings
~ND
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#6 Posted : 6/26/2015 6:44:53 PM
Something very interesting happened to Dennis, but I don't think his explanations at the time 40 years ago really explain it, and apparently neither does he. Although there could be any number of bits and pieces of insight in their original theory that we just can't confirm yet, even if most is off the mark.

It's very fun to listen to the true hallucinations audio book however. Even if much of it is impressive gobbledegook Very happy



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
Artemis
#7 Posted : 7/27/2015 3:13:03 PM
This is all very interesting. Whether or not this hypothesis is true or not, it is ideas like these that lead to large leaps in innovation and general scientific understanding. It's a shame that ideas like these do not get the research they deserve because of the current drug laws.
 
Jees
#8 Posted : 7/27/2015 3:45:09 PM
Dennis Mckenna wrote:
...Does any of that make sense?...

Of course Dennis, now have that chamomile tea that is waiting patiently in front of you for the last hour, with a tiny mint chocolate, I'm sure it will make you happy as usual.
 
Psybin
#9 Posted : 7/27/2015 3:53:57 PM
Jees wrote:
Dennis Mckenna wrote:
...Does any of that make sense?...

Of course Dennis, now have that chamomile tea that is waiting patiently in front of you for the last hour, with a tiny mint chocolate, I'm sure it will make you happy as usual.


Umm, what? Did you mean to post that in the DMT and Chamomile Thread?
 
 
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