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Idea for storing xtals in a vacuum Options
 
MachineElf88
#1 Posted : 4/4/2015 7:58:54 PM
Hey guys, I've got an idea that I think might work very well. I store my xtals in those small dark glass vials with a screw on top but I still find that my lovely white xtals go yellow pretty quick.

I've got one of these wine vacuum pumps - http://www.dx.com/p/wine...ppers-36204#.VSAzvhPF_a4

So my idea is I could store my xtals in an empty wine bottle and then suck all the air out with the vacuum pump. I wonder if this would stop the yellowing which I guess is oxidisation.

What do you guys think?
 
BubbleCat
#2 Posted : 4/4/2015 8:56:16 PM
Those "vacuum pumps" dont create anything near a true vacuum, I sometimes use them on my wine and they pretty soon will make a click sound indicating the overload valve opening to prevent failure. Creating a environment emptied of every last molecule is near impossible and very costly, like when you wanted your own mass spectrometer or idk.

The other question is: In the ambient condition you can achieve with that device or in a true vacuum, would you gain anything ?

Proof of what is causing the discoloration would be helpfull, sadly I dont have any exact and true proven knowledge here but in general, if its the presence of various gasses that cause it, I have the unproven opinion its oxygen / oxygenation, you wont get something from a wine pump, but from a turbine pump with attached molecule trap Very happy

Other considerations that should be made, and for me that would be the most worrying and the reason to not make a habit out of the wine pump if it doesnt give you a clear advantage: The perhaps rising chance of sublimination Smile

Crossing all minoe effects out I strongly feel you wont gain or loose anything with the wine pump, but I am interested on your findings and if they are special, finding a good explanation.

Give it a try.

Maybe a more easy route would be to flush your container with N, CO2 ... anything cheap and available.
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OrionFyre
#3 Posted : 4/4/2015 9:22:38 PM
If anything I'd say you have more success purging the container with nitrogen or argon gas than a cheap vacuum pump that will still leave oxygen in there.
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1ce
#4 Posted : 4/5/2015 1:24:26 AM
Slight oxidation isn't that big of a deal, yes, a vacuum will help. Standard practice would be store oxygen sensitive compounds under an inert gas, such as argon or N2.
 
 
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