I am posting this in this section since I am limited on where I can post. As a researcher I have been looking over a number of extraction TEk’s for the past few months dealing with Mescaline Extraction, mainly dried chips. Some of these are fairly old and some use all natural ingredients while others use harsher ones like MEK. My question is this. Has anyone heard from others who have experimented with these different Tek’s and if so which one did they end up using permanently. Also if they had improved some of these extractions by trial and error.

In addition if you were using something like or similar to MEK could you wash the final product in let’s say EverClear alcohol (dry if need be) to wash out any chemical that may have been left behind? THANKS for any impute you care to donate!

The teks all work well & have drawbacks & advantages. Pick one & go for it. After experimenting with different ones you'll find the one that suits your situation best.

Dryteks eat solvent & use alot of water because the cactus absorbs liquid & swells, they are messy.

A/b has long boils & prolonged exposure to heat.

Food safe teks may not yeild as nice a products. (eg. Mescaline acetate & citrate end up being gooey & hard to clean, purity may suffer)

I'm in the middle of an a/b from 114g dried bridgesii chips right now.

What i did was 4x2hr boils on the powdered material using vinegar to bring the ph down.
Reduced to 900ml separated into two 800ml jars (450ml each).
Added 120g lye to 500ml water slowly & mixed in.
Slowly added 250ml basic water to each jar.
Shook & allowed to settle & plant material to break down for 24hrs.
Add 75ml limonene to each jar. Shake frequently over 24hrs. Before separation allow a couple hours for solvent to clear & any water trapped to settle.
Pull off green/yellow limo & add to 500ml flask. Save.
Repeat limo pulls x2 allowing 24 hours of occasional shaking before separation.

combine the 3 pulls from each jar (6 pulls total) & salt with 10% hcl solution until ph 4.
Seperate water/acid solution & keep in evap dish.
Repeat salting on dirty limo 2x.
Combine saltings & evap.
1 more salting on limo to see if any alkaloids are left. If there is a decent amount continue salting until it's gone or negligible.

Limo pull again & salt out with hcl again, evap to determine if the amount of alkaloids being pulled is worthwhile.

Once your getting next to nothing on salting your pulls stop pulling.

Collect all the alkaloids & wash 3x with cold, dry acetone, keep the white mesc.

Evap the acetone, scrape up, & re wash the recovered alks 3x like before.

At the end you can choose to do a cold, dry MEK wash on the white mesc.
Once dried it should be very pure

& i think you may be able to wash in ethanol rather than mek. I'd do some google searching.
I tried & came up with a few links but didn.t read any further into it.

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I hope a few more people will tell of their experiences too.

SOME QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND;

You said;
What i did was 4x2hr boils on the powdered material using vinegar to bring the ph down.

Could you explain 4x2hr in more detail? Are you using a pressure cooker as in this tek, https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=22831

And are you using straight vinegar (no water) when boiling?

You said:
combine the 3 pulls from each jar (6 pulls total) & salt with 10% hcl solution until ph 4.

As far as the HCL, could Muriatic acid be used? And using a PH meter do you add just enough HCL to get the liquid to a ph of 4?

You said:
Collect all the alkaloids & wash 3x with cold, dry acetone, keep the white mesc. Evap the acetone, scrape up, & re wash the recovered alks 3x like before.

Could you please go into a little more detail on this step?

From studying some posts from 69Ron, he stated when doing a HCL Tek a person could use IPA 99% as a final cleanup!

I assume this would wash out any prior chemical used in this Tek? THANKS for any respones!

I've been working at this for a while. It isn't finished, but I thought I'd stick it in here for you. I can tweak it later. Hope it is of some use.

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Pup Tentacle's Lots-O-Water and Patience
(But NO FILTERING!)
Cactus Extraction

Hybrid tek thanks to:

House's tek - for the ideas of LOTS OF WATER and leaving chunks whole for boiling.

and

Kash's tek - for the straight up A/B well explained and presented. Easy to follow with extra clean-up steps included as well.

and

Phlux - for the simple acetone/water Mesc HCL cleanup method. (Easy as pie and quick as a whip)

I did no filtering whatsoever. Settling and decanting was the ticket.. This takes a lot of time, but is easy peasy. Just plan ahead. No good extraction should be rushed anyhow.

350g dried Pervian torch chips (I see no reason this wouldn't work with fresh cactus as well)
16 gallons distilled water (tap water would probably work as well BUT distilled has maximum dissolving power)
1 3-4 gallon stock pot
1 propane cooker
lye (sodium hydroxide)
muriatic acid(hydrochloric acid)
2 1000ml erlenmeyer flasks (or your favorite equivalent)
half gallon glass milk bottle (or your favorite equivalent)
glass baking dishes for evaporation
anhydrous acetone

I use a propane cooker for 3 reasons, 1) So my house doesn't become a steam bath, 2) Propane is cheaper to boil GALLONS of water for HOURS with than electricity, 3) I can do it in my garage whilst sipping fermented beverages and chatting with beloved friends.

1) Boil the chips in 2 gallons of water for 2 hours - add 1/4 cup white vinegar
Let the pot cool, pour off tea into a separate container and save the tea - probably get about 3/4 of a gallon.
Place drained cactus chips in a ziplock freezer bag and freeze overnight.

Repeat process 1 - 8 times, saving the tea after each freeze/boil

***As I'm doing my boils, I'm also decanting the jugs that have stood for a day or two thereby removing settled particulate matter***

You should have between 4 and 8 gallons of tea after this

Reduce to 1300ml - carefully, don't scorch… yadda yadda yadda

****If I'm wanting resin, this is where I stop, dry out the 1300ml of tea (syrup), grind it to powder, and cap it up****

2) Split into 2 1000ml erlenmeyer flasks (the reason for 2 is that I don't have a 2l erlenmeyer flask and I like doing all the parts with caustic stuff in good glass - they're also easier to shake longer in this size for me)

3) Mix 150g of NaHO into 200ml distilled water in 50g increments - place vessel in cooling bath while stirring each time - cap &set aside

4) Basify the cactus tea concentrate with the lye mixture half and half 200ml/200ml in each flask and mix well.

There should be roughly 850 ml of liquid in each 1000ml flask

5) Add 150ml xylene to each flask

shake well - place in hot water bath to separate emulsion
^repeat 3 times and decant the xylene to your milk bottle

repeat Step 5 - 5 times - giving you roughly 1500ml of sweetly laden xylene in your collection jar

(BE CAREFUL! GOGGLES, GLOVES, APRON, APPROPRIATE VENTILATION!!! TAKE YOUR TIME. LOVE YOUR MOTHER)
6) Add to THAT 200ml of water AND HCl (I had a jug of 35% muriatic acid) - add until you have <pH7 (BE CAREFUL! GOGGLES, GLOVES, APRON, APPROPRIATE VENTILATION!!! TAKE YOUR TIME. LOVE YOUR MOTHER)
shake the shit out of that - shake it like your immortal soul depends on it.

7) Reclaim the now sweetly laden aqueous layer with a pipette or separator funnel
I have a 1l sep funnel - after the shake I poured about 3/4 of a liter of xylene off the top of the bottle and
then poured the rest into the sep funnel - waited for it to separate again and pulled the aqueous layer off the bottom

Placed the aqueous solution in a 9"x13"glass baking dish with a fan on it until completely dry
I ended up using a hair dryer to help it along ( I think I had some excess HCl making it hygroscopic?)

AT this point I have 4 grams of impure mescaline hydrochloride

washed 2x with ice cold anhydrous acetone

AT this point I have 3.5 grams of less-impure mescaline hydrochloride

PHOTO

I took 2 grams of than and undertook Phlux's water/acetone re-X plan.

For final result I'm left with 1.75 grams of tan - seemingly pretty pure (purer than I've bothered to go before) mescaline HCl

PHOTO

Many thanks and much love to all who've gone before me and shared their preciously collected knowledge.

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