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DisEmboDied
#1 Posted : 11/2/2014 12:53:52 AM
This is an article which is circulating around Facebook which mentions the Nexus at the end, thought the Nexians might want to check it out because of that. The article says nothing new, but seems pretty good for newcomers or ponderers...

http://www.collective-ev...in-produces-it-everyday/


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Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Nathanial.Dread
#2 Posted : 11/2/2014 5:36:46 PM
*sigh*

This kind of stuff drives me nuts.
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
Spiralout
#3 Posted : 11/2/2014 6:07:58 PM
I also don't like a lot of this sensationalism and hype either. However, people are gunna talk and educated people are going to do more research if they come across a tabloid-esque article and are interested in the subject. So it's all the same to me.
 
dreamer042
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#4 Posted : 11/2/2014 6:16:51 PM
Om I
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RAM
#5 Posted : 11/2/2014 7:19:39 PM
I used to read that site a little but then I realized a lot of the articles are "sensationalized spirituality." I suppose it's good to have people interested in this kind of stuff, but nothing is so black and white like these news sites tend to frame it as. I guess we're fortunate the whole article doesn't focus on the Nexus, but do keep in mind we are like the fifth link on Google when you search "DMT." That's probably more publicity than anything else.
"Think for yourself and question authority." - Leary

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Mustelid
#6 Posted : 11/2/2014 7:39:39 PM
Yeah, that article was very well balanced compared to the flaming woo of a lot of the articles.

 
HippingTrippY
#7 Posted : 11/3/2014 2:35:44 AM
In my humble opinion it's better than a hole lotta the tripe I have been seeing as of late. Anyone who reads all the way through that and chooses to press that link deserves a Happy Greeting Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if I learned something from them. "believed that DMT was a portal to another dimension wherein we gained access to the true nature of reality, a vibratory non-material space of loving energy and unlimited potentiality. " Thank God the article didn't bring up how DMT has inspired Strassman to study Hebrew to get the best understanding of scripture to which make sense of this. It might feel like we were being DNSed by angry hackers if even 2% of the registered thumpers looked into this at the same time.
AM I the only one who is feeling as if that "unlimited potentiality" is about to pop into existence on the material plane?Neutral



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d*l*b
#8 Posted : 11/3/2014 5:12:05 PM
It is a shame that they describe DMT as "the most powerful psychedelic known to man". Have they not heard of 5-MeO-DMT, psilocybin, ibogaine, salvinorin-A etc?
D × V × F > R
 
Tyler_Trismegistus
#9 Posted : 11/3/2014 6:51:33 PM
yeah, salivinorin A and LSD are technically the most powerful when you look at it dose-wise. I mean, imagine taking a dose of LSD equivalent to the dose of DMT you'd need to break through!?!.... needing only a few micrograms to feel the effects. Also, psilocybin and 5-meo can definitely take you just as far as DMT can...... However, I do understand what they mean.... Even though it's technically not the most powerful, it does seem to be in a league of it's own regarding the character of the trip. I have been just as far out on mushrooms as I have on DMT, but the character of the DMT experience is what makes it so special to me.
 
ScientificMethod
#10 Posted : 11/3/2014 7:31:41 PM
Stuff like this leaves me torn, and it brings up a point that I've kind of been bouncing around in my head and wanting to pose to the Nexus.

So I hear a lot of people criticizing Joe Rogan because he sensationalizes everything and stands on a soap box screaming "DMT! DMT! DMT!" So I totally get that he may be drawing in unwanted attention... I follow so far.

On the other hand, Rogan's constant discussion of DMT is what made me so interested in it, and it's what lead me to Terence McKenna who is probably my single biggest idea influence at this time.

Now here's where my question comes from: Why was it okay for McKenna to run around telling everyone to try DMT but it's a problem that Rogan is seemingly doing the same?

I mean, if it weren't for Rogan and articles like the one sited by OP, I never would have found out about this world. At the same time however, increased attention may lead to increased UNWANTED attention and involvement from those who maybe shouldn't be dabbling in this world.

Anyways... that's my two cents.


EDIT: Blegh! I just read the comment section of that article. That's more worrisome than the article itself.
All of my posts are entirely fictional. I am a writer, and as a means to research the life of a fictional character that I'm writing about, I post on the Nexus to get into character. In real life I have no interest or interaction with mind-altering substances.
 
HippingTrippY
#11 Posted : 11/3/2014 7:45:43 PM
I agree with the statement that it is the most Powerful, for one reason, speed of onset. One of the ways that I describe the experience of getting a GOOD hit is that No matter how far you go you will be back down in the time that it takes for a lit ciggarette left in an ashtray to burn down to the filter. By down I mean I feel back to earth even though visually it's still as powerful as peaking on 3 grammes of cubensis. For me I feel relief that I am back in this corporeal body the walls are just melting and dripping up to the cieling.
I have the smoking technique down though. For me personally Whatever drivel an author or speaker is spouting I try to actively listen, read, or comprehend where THEY are comin from. (Get into your opponents decision making process) It doesn't take much of a leap for me to accept "The most powerful entheogen" premise. I find DMT opens my mind up like nothing else does. Screw arguing when I do believe I could learn something from DLB about ibogaine shrooms, I will pass on the salvia for now.
I have a PHD in smoking drugs. I know how to give a tweaker or a klukker a hit so BIG that they poop, vomit, and cum all over themselves. When it's time to hit the Deemsters I employ tubing, a couple chambers water, I will post a photo. Love & respect y'all. I have a feeling we are going to meat sum body kewl because of that article.
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Tyler_Trismegistus
#12 Posted : 11/3/2014 8:30:47 PM
ScientificMethod wrote:
Stuff like this leaves me torn, and it brings up a point that I've kind of been bouncing around in my head and wanting to pose to the Nexus.

So I hear a lot of people criticizing Joe Rogan because he sensationalizes everything and stands on a soap box screaming "DMT! DMT! DMT!" So I totally get that he may be drawing in unwanted attention... I follow so far.

On the other hand, Rogan's constant discussion of DMT is what made me so interested in it, and it's what lead me to Terence McKenna who is probably my single biggest idea influence at this time.

Now here's where my question comes from: Why was it okay for McKenna to run around telling everyone to try DMT but it's a problem that Rogan is seemingly doing the same?

I mean, if it weren't for Rogan and articles like the one sited by OP, I never would have found out about this world. At the same time however, increased attention may lead to increased UNWANTED attention and involvement from those who maybe shouldn't be dabbling in this world.

Anyways... that's my two cents.


EDIT: Blegh! I just read the comment section of that article. That's more worrisome than the article itself.



I totally agree with you here about Rogan.... Just because he hasn't wrote a book about psychedelics or dedicated his entire career to them, doesn't necessarily mean that he shouldn't advocate them. I too was introduced to it through him and if it weren't for his enthusiasm on the subject I would have never found DMT or the psychedelic culture in general. However, I think a lot of the criticism that he recieved is how he USED TO (He's gotten better with this) say that DMT IS produced by the pineal gland and IS released when you dream, die, and are born. I know this is all speculation but if you've done it then you have to understand why he would believe this. I also think it was a way for him to possibly bypass the criticism about him using the substance. "Oh he used a substance that's released by your own brain when you dream every night it can't be that bad." I dunno.... That's how I see it anyways. I'm very grateful for him though because like you, I am very heavily influenced by Terence Mckenna.... My friends even call me obsessed. If it weren't for Rogan, things in my life would be much, much different.
 
d*l*b
#13 Posted : 11/3/2014 8:35:36 PM
ScientificMethod wrote:
EDIT: Blegh! I just read the comment section of that article. That's more worrisome than the article itself.

Indeed, some very questionable information being shared there. My views on the article are quite mild in comparison to those I hold on what is going on in the comments.

Quote:
An astral dose so you “break through” will require about 0.1 – 0.2 grams of pure dmt.

Blimey. You will probably break through the break through there. Having accidentally smoked (use scales!!) doses round the 200mg mark, it takes some cleaning up after!

…not to mention that other commenters don’t seem to know the different between grams and milligrams. I hope a good number of those that look at that article and the comments get over here and educate themselves a bit better.
D × V × F > R
 
ScientificMethod
#14 Posted : 11/3/2014 8:52:28 PM
^ Really?

I thought that she was shorting the dosage there. SWIM uses .3g to breakthrough on a GVG and have heard of people going as high as .5 or .6.

Regardless, I didn't like the fact that it was just a couple of people on there acting like experts. I understand the urge, but it also expresses someone who hasn't done a lot of research into the culture of DMT contemporarily. I for one would rather that the two cops I live next to not even know what spice is--that makes it difficult for them to smell it from my window or in my ecig pen.

May the knowledge rest where it can be found by those who dig. May it be hidden from those who aren't willing to go beyond a google search of "WTF is DMT?"
All of my posts are entirely fictional. I am a writer, and as a means to research the life of a fictional character that I'm writing about, I post on the Nexus to get into character. In real life I have no interest or interaction with mind-altering substances.
 
d*l*b
#15 Posted : 11/3/2014 9:00:01 PM
ScientificMethod wrote:
I thought that she was shorting the dosage there. SWIM uses .3g to breakthrough on a GVG and have heard of people going as high as .5 or .6.

Either you have the highest natural tolerance to DMT I have ever heard of or are mixing up grams and milligrams. The doses you speak of are 300, 500 and 600mg. I need quite a fair dose but, using the GVG, am very wary of going over 35mg.

Last time I had 40mg with the GVG I learnt a lot (my second go with the GVG, first time was a misfire), it was a truly life-changing experience. Not one I will be repeating in a hurry though. My normal dose when I am looking to totally move of this reality are 30–33mg.

When I was still using a traditional pipe/bong I used to dose 50–60mg, that seemed to be what I needed in an inefficient pipe.
D × V × F > R
 
Nathanial.Dread
#16 Posted : 11/3/2014 9:02:05 PM
The whole notion of N,N-DMT as *the most powerful psychedelic* really annoys me. By almost any measure, N,N-DMT is NOT the most powerful. If you're looking at potency, both LSD-25 and salvanorin A blow N,N-DMT out of the water. If you're looking at intensity of the experience (at normal doses), 5-MeO-DMT absolutely takes the cake.

Also, all that stuff about DMT being associated with NDEs, dreaming and endogenous production is really specious. Strassman found 5-HO-DMT in the body, so N,N-DMT is hardly alone in that, and the purpose of N,N-DMT in the body is still a complete mystery. The only clue we have to it's function is that it appears to be an endogenous ligand of the Sig1 receptor, which is implicated most in immune system and pain response.

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Ufostrahlen
#17 Posted : 11/4/2014 6:39:48 AM
Nathanial.Dread wrote:
The whole notion of N,N-DMT as *the most powerful psychedelic* really annoys me. By almost any measure, N,N-DMT is NOT the most powerful. If you're looking at potency, both LSD-25 and salvanorin A blow N,N-DMT out of the water. If you're looking at intensity of the experience (at normal doses), 5-MeO-DMT absolutely takes the cake.

Not sure, if a newer compound has been found (the paper is from '98), but Bromodragon-FLY has the highest affinity for the 5-HT2A receptor. I mean there's a reason for tripping up to 96h.

Quote:
A Novel (Benzodifuranyl)aminoalkane with Extremely Potent Activity at the 5-HT2A Receptor

Thus, benzodifuran 3* is the most potent known ligand
for the 5-HT2A receptor. It is the first arylethylamine
derivative to surpass LSD in potency in a behavioral
assay and the first compound with LSD-like activity to
have an aromatic nucleus other than benzene or indole.

At the cloned human 5-HT2C receptor, its affinity is
double that at the 5-HT2A receptor, making it also the
most potent ligand yet reported for that site.

It should also be noted that 3 was synthesized here
as the racemate. If, as previously observed for hallucinogenic
phenethylamines,10-13 the activity is found
to reside primarily in the R enantiomer, it would be
expected to exhibit approximately twice the potency of
the racemic material.

http://libgen.org/scimag...?doi=10.1021%2Fjm9803525


* benzodifuran 3 = Bromodragon-FLY
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DreaMTripper
#18 Posted : 11/4/2014 9:34:24 AM
d*l*b wrote:
ScientificMethod wrote:
I thought that she was shorting the dosage there. SWIM uses .3g to breakthrough on a GVG and have heard of people going as high as .5 or .6.

Either you have the highest natural tolerance to DMT I have ever heard of or are mixing up grams and milligrams. The doses you speak of are 300, 500 and 600mg. I need quite a fair dose but, using the GVG, am very wary of going over 35mg.

Last time I had 40mg with the GVG I learnt a lot (my second go with the GVG, first time was a misfire), it was a truly life-changing experience. Not one I will be repeating in a hurry though. My normal dose when I am looking to totally move of this reality are 30–33mg.

When I was still using a traditional pipe/bong I used to dose 50–60mg, that seemed to be what I needed in an inefficient pipe.


Im glad someone had else noticed that already, that womans information was completely bunk I hope someone doesnt go and smoke 300mg after reading that it would be hideously traumatic. Futher reading the comments revealed more woo dressed as fact.
"When the pineal gland is supercharged" ? Im glad someone further down the page made a reference to the nexus hopefuly some people will follow it and get some correct informatiion.
 
Nathanial.Dread
#19 Posted : 11/4/2014 4:36:35 PM
DreaMTripper wrote:
d*l*b wrote:
ScientificMethod wrote:
I thought that she was shorting the dosage there. SWIM uses .3g to breakthrough on a GVG and have heard of people going as high as .5 or .6.

Either you have the highest natural tolerance to DMT I have ever heard of or are mixing up grams and milligrams. The doses you speak of are 300, 500 and 600mg. I need quite a fair dose but, using the GVG, am very wary of going over 35mg.

Last time I had 40mg with the GVG I learnt a lot (my second go with the GVG, first time was a misfire), it was a truly life-changing experience. Not one I will be repeating in a hurry though. My normal dose when I am looking to totally move of this reality are 30–33mg.

When I was still using a traditional pipe/bong I used to dose 50–60mg, that seemed to be what I needed in an inefficient pipe.


Im glad someone had else noticed that already, that womans information was completely bunk I hope someone doesnt go and smoke 300mg after reading that it would be hideously traumatic. Futher reading the comments revealed more woo dressed as fact.
"When the pineal gland is supercharged" ? Im glad someone further down the page made a reference to the nexus hopefuly some people will follow it and get some correct informatiion.

Also: DMT releasing 5-HT? Thumbs down

It's not ecstasy folks.
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
SKA
#20 Posted : 11/5/2014 1:19:38 AM
Allthough I still think that DMT shouldn't be sensationalised and hyped like it is, I have changed my view on psychedelic publicity in general. I used to think Psychedelics were best used in obscurity by responsible psychonauts, but I see now
that this way Psychedelics will continue to be demonised in the public eye and our practices will continue to be fiercely prosecuted.

We need to come out into the light. Psychedelics really DO need more positive publicity, but it needs the RIGHT kind
of publicity. The kind that will change the views that Lawmakers, Politicians, Intellectual Celebrities, Scientists,
Students and similair influential people have on Psychedelics for the better. People like Sting, Jim Carrey, Amber Lyon,
Alex Grey and Rick Strassman giving Psychedelics positive(& truthfull) publicity: THAT is good for the Entheogenic cause.
We need psychedelic articles designed to interrest THESE kinds of people in Psychedelics & their many benefits.

We really don't need articles that are custom-designed to get rich, bored, shallowminded, pseudo-intellectual Hedonists
interrested in DMT. What could they do, but harm the cause by smoalking way too much, shitting themselves and tossing
themselves out of a window on the 6th floor?


So YES Psychedelics, DMT especially, deserve and need more good publicity, but
NO we shouldn't aim articles at wreckless hedonists seeking for the next thrill.
We should aim higher, at influential people who may have significantly more impact
than the regulair joe. They will then go on to influence whole herds of other people,
who admire them, with their pro-psychedelic sentiment. This is how the human hivemind works.
Let's work it.
 
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