So, I'm new and I can't figure out how to post on the correct forums on this phone. I apologise to the moderators and those who. I might anger on posting this here. I've been apart of the community here for not too long, nor have I posted anything. But what I have done is read and research a lot of the questions and answers on the forums, soaking up as much as I can to feed my curiosity. Now, since my last encounter with DMT, it's always been on my mind. I thought I might give Ayahuasca a shot in hopes of experiencing things I've been reading on the forums.

I tried a caapi/rue brew and it was a dud last night. This morning I tried a chaliponga/rue brew and still nothing. I put 30g worth of dried chaliponga leaves in with 1 liter of distiller water and 2 TBS of white distiller vinegar. I let simmer for an hour, then repeated the same thing over again. The third time I did it I added 10g of grounded to the brew with the other 30g's of chaliponga leaves, 1 liter of distiller water and 2 TBS of white distilled vinegar. I did that twice before taking everything and pouring it into a new pot with about a little over 1.2 liters of brew. I sit and let boil until I had about 150ml left and then put it in a container, leaving it in the fridge. Throughout the process I did use coffee filters to filter out a lot of the materials floating about. I don't really understand too much, but if someone could give me a pointer or two, that would be much appreciated. I've read almost all the forums on it and still have no luck. Maybe there's something I missed? If I did, please link it to me so I can look into it a little more. Thanks.

Well firstly, have you fasted any? Be extremely careful with any Ayahuasca or mix brew. There are some things that while they are tiny in dosage, could if mixed with particular foods that you've eaten recently or ingested medicines that could cause problems. While I don't think they are in the dosage range that could kill you, it is a possibility because of the interactions of some drugs with the MAOI's.

Also, i mention this as fasting does help to spiritually and physically sensitive your body to the Mother Vine. I have great respect for the Brew. I've done much work with her, though not too much. I've done research with her for 5 years before taking the plunge and trying my hand at working with her a little over a year ago. I fasted for about 10 days before I did my first "breakthrough" (I've brewed all in all around 5 times).

My advice: search ayahuasca forum the first result should be for the forums.aya website. I'm a member there and that is a huge wealth of knowledge there for brewing and safety. And I might add the advice on growing Mother Vine are tremendous and the community over there is made up of similar people as here, just with a focus on the Mother.

Make sure you are ready, Mother Vine is a different entity altogether from DMT, she works through you in different ways and will help you in different ways, and while she may take hours of "slow-release-DMT" she is no less potent (as I found out as I accidentally got my proportions wrong)


If you have more questions, I would be more than happy to help, as I said I'm a member of that other forum as well, and it is a great place to begin.

I wish you luck, and just remember there is no need to rush. The Mother will make sure you understand things when you are ready and if you rush in she very well may not reward you with what you were wanting, as she rarely gives any of us what we want, but what we need.

We cant really help you without knowing how much rue you used and I would say 8 times out of ten the reason for misfires is inadequate maoi.

Now that being said you may want to consider yourself a lucky person that you didn't have proper maoi because from what you wrote it appears you drank 40g of chaliponga! That's way too much chali.

Also what do you mean by a caapi/rue brew? Those are both MAOI and neither contain dmt so thats why it wasn't a full on oral dmt experience.

It doesn't sound like you have a good understanding of Ayahuasca so you should do more research before you try anything else. You can hurt yourself with improper dosing and mixing of substances without an adequate understanding of them.

There are things we can tell you about filtering and such that may help but first we need a clearer picture of what you are brewing and consuming.