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Low doses of Changa on LSD? Options
 
Bonné
#1 Posted : 6/26/2014 8:51:43 PM
The title of the thread is pretty self explanatory. Smile

Some friends and I will be tripping on LSD sometime soon and I was thinking about smoking small doses of changa on the trip, preferrably comedown.
Has anyone got any experience in this? What can I expect to happen?

Thanks a lot. Smile
 
112233
#2 Posted : 6/26/2014 9:19:36 PM
Ohhhh, buddy! The very first, and still most intense, breakthrough I've ever had was smoking one small hit of dmt infused leaf on top of some lsd, not very strong lsd. I decided, after realizing the acid wasn't going to take me where I wanted to go, to smoke dmt, so I went to my room, pack my Zong with infused leaf, took a small hit . . . set the bong down . . . the bong blipped out out of existence, then, like dominoes, everything else in my room, with my eyes wide open, bounced and morphed and became something else entirely. When the window and door disappeared I thought I was trapped in this neon lego land forever ("who's going to feed my dog??"Pleased, but I accepted it and lay down and had a cathartic death experience. I'd read about breakthroughs, but all the trip reports in the world couldn't prepare me for a real one.

Freaking intense. Not saying this is going to happen to you, but make sure your setting is perfectly in order, which goes without saying, really, because it certainly can.

Be safe, and have fun.
Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
 
V01D
#3 Posted : 6/26/2014 9:33:06 PM
LSDMT is pretty sweet. I highly recommend it!
 
Bonné
#4 Posted : 6/26/2014 9:36:51 PM
112233 wrote:
Ohhhh, buddy! The very first, and still most intense, breakthrough I've ever had was smoking one small hit of dmt infused leaf on top of some lsd, not very strong lsd. I decided, after realizing the acid wasn't going to take me where I wanted to go, to smoke dmt, so I went to my room, pack my Zong with infused leaf, took a small hit . . . set the bong down . . . the bong blipped out out of existence, then, like dominoes, everything else in my room, with my eyes wide open, bounced and morphed and became something else entirely. When the window and door disappeared I thought I was trapped in this neon lego land forever ("who's going to feed my dog??"Pleased, but I accepted it and lay down and had a cathartic death experience. I'd read about breakthroughs, but all the trip reports in the world couldn't prepare me for a real one.

Freaking intense. Not saying this is going to happen to you, but make sure your setting is perfectly in order, which goes without saying, really, because it certainly can.

Be safe, and have fun.


Sounds like a great surprise you got yourself there! Very happy

I will be in the best set and setting possible. I will even have friends to carry me into bed if I go completely out. Smile
 
Hieronymous
#5 Posted : 6/26/2014 11:25:36 PM
Just do it.

If you want to crank it up a notch (or 10) fill a balloon of N02 for everyone before you smoke the changa, after you smoke the changa start re breathing from the balloon.

Chang nang bang!

Even smoking a spliff of Caapi without DMT is a good way to crank a mushroom or LSD trip up a notch.
 
some one
#6 Posted : 6/29/2014 7:58:47 AM
I always wondered..

LSD seems to open your filters and let you process more sensory input consciously (vs directly getting stored in the subconscious and forgotten). Meaning: you "see" more.

Could this "help" during a dmt trip: to capture more information (vs most visuals not getting processed consciously and forgotten)?
some = one | here = some | there = one
 
Bonné
#7 Posted : 7/2/2014 8:43:17 PM
Hieronymous wrote:
Just do it.

If you want to crank it up a notch (or 10) fill a balloon of N02 for everyone before you smoke the changa, after you smoke the changa start re breathing from the balloon.

Chang nang bang!

Even smoking a spliff of Caapi without DMT is a good way to crank a mushroom or LSD trip up a notch.


I asked my other friends, but they didn't seem to keen on the idea of an inhalant, even though there may not be any major risks invovled with just 1-2 capsules each.

I didn't know LSD was influenced by MAOI?
 
V01D
#8 Posted : 7/2/2014 8:48:29 PM
Everything is influenced by MAOIs. That is why when I do my caapi tea microdosing next week I'm going to stop smoking cigarettes, drinking caffeine and alcohol, and paying close attention to my diet.
 
Tyler_Trismegistus
#9 Posted : 7/2/2014 9:00:03 PM
Do it for sure! My first ever breakthrough was also while on LSD. Although I must say, please HANG ON TIGHT. I can't stress this enough. DMT alone is absolutely mind blowing and intense but the addition of LSD and the MAOI is just the metaphysical icing on the cake.
 
Parshvik Chintan
#10 Posted : 7/3/2014 12:37:15 AM
why a low dose?
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
Guyomech
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#11 Posted : 7/3/2014 12:51:08 AM
I've found that being on acid really takes away the pre-flight DMT jitters, probably because the flight is already in session. Better recall too. And you can blast off repeatedly, so if you want to start small and ramp your way up that is fine. My last such session I ended with a sub-breakthrough dose after a particularly wild ride, which helped me to process it all in a positive way. Right after your LSD peak is a great time to do it, provided you are feeling balanced and in tune with where the trip is going.
 
anon_003
#12 Posted : 7/3/2014 1:08:21 AM
Heck yeah dude!! Go for it!!!

Like everyone else has said... you might find that some of the pre-flight jitters are taken away, extra clarity and depth, longer immersion, better recall....

and you ALSO might find that it adds a rather hyperspatial quality to the rest of your journey...

and if you find you like the low dose, I *urge* you to consider a full on breakthough dose! Although you also might be surprised by how much less DMT you need to cross the "breakthrough" threshold in such a state (LSD dosage dependent, of course).

ENJOY, my friend.
Once in a while, you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
 
universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#13 Posted : 7/3/2014 1:45:22 AM
I love it. Although I'm not sure I like mixing higher, psychoactive amounts of harmalas with LSD much yet, but it's something I haven't experimented with too much.



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
some one
#14 Posted : 7/3/2014 1:50:29 AM
I must try this one day. I only use LSD at parties and DMT at home, so might be a while before I get the change.

What about shrooms + changa? A friend did it ones, said it was very (too) intense. But he isn't an exprienced dmt smoker.
some = one | here = some | there = one
 
universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#15 Posted : 7/3/2014 1:52:20 AM
I like mushrooms and changa even more than lsd and changa, and that's saying a lot ^__^

(there is a million thread on all this btw) Thumbs up



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
some one
#16 Posted : 7/3/2014 1:55:55 AM
Awesome.

In that case: I will be trying soon hihi

Reading your statement only is enough Pleased

I have used shrooms + (100mg) harmala twice now. Its so good I'm never using shrooms without it anymore. No heavy shroom up and downs, very controlled, almost as straight as LSD. And when the shrooms wear off, the harmala keeps going, you feel a warm buzz, your bodies frequency raised, healing powers, very healthy. Excellent combo. It's like the light version of oral DMT. Splendid visual effects when in nature, plenty of thoughts about life and yourself to process even DMT-like CEV. The perfect medicine.

Harmala + DMT @ night
Harmala + Psilocybin @ day
some = one | here = some | there = one
 
Bonné
#17 Posted : 7/3/2014 9:23:20 AM
Parshvik Chintan wrote:
why a low dose?

Because I've never even tried a high or medium dose of it. Very happy I don't want to break my routine just because I'm on LSD. As a matter of fact, I see that as a reason to be even more thoughtful and take care about your actions.

If I do like it, I will definitely up the dose a bit, but I'm not jumping with both feet into new territory like that.
 
DreaMTripper
#18 Posted : 7/3/2014 10:28:04 AM
Have tried just a low-medium freebase dose vaped on acid it was good it ramped up the visuals and superimposed the more detailed open eye patterning onto the acid visuals. I was surprised by the lucidity it gave too. Very nice indeed. Ketamine later made it a recreational visual treat, Tellytubbies meets the magic roundabout. Very happy
Adding harmalas on top would be deeeep Im sure.
 
 
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