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Which natural maoi for experience closest to vaped. Options
 
maranello551
#1 Posted : 4/14/2014 5:03:28 AM
Which natural maoi gives the user the an extended experience closest to the crystal clear one that is that of vaped DMT? The least distractions from the power of the light so to say?
 
Entheogenerator
#2 Posted : 4/14/2014 6:07:44 AM
Did you really need to make three different threads for three basic questions regarding the same topic? Wut?
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maranello551
#3 Posted : 4/14/2014 6:21:50 AM
Most times I make a single thread with subject subsection questions, parts just get forgotten or ignored. If it bothers you my fellow nexusers then I will go back to making condensed threads. I just thought the topics were sufficiently different to warrant this format.
 
maranello551
#4 Posted : 4/15/2014 5:50:12 PM
Anybody?
 
maranello551
#5 Posted : 4/17/2014 5:20:45 PM
Really? :[
 
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#6 Posted : 4/17/2014 6:30:18 PM
I don't understand your question. Harmalas and DMT are different things.
 
maranello551
#7 Posted : 4/17/2014 8:35:34 PM
Sorry. Let me reword that. Which maoi used in conjunction with dmt or a dmt plant will create an oral dmt experience most similar to vaped dmt (but obviously extended). Basically which natural maoi adds the least new aspects to the experience while still allowing the dmt to be orally active?
 
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#8 Posted : 4/17/2014 8:51:05 PM
It is definitely more dose related than substance related.
There will be psychoactive effects from the harmalas, especially at higher doses.
If you want to strictly inhibit the MAO try low doses of harmalas like 2g of rue or 100mg of harmine or harmaline (found in caapi and rue but can be extracted.)
Even at these doses there is a noticeable synergy.
Relaxation, comfort, warmth, etc. It really goes hand in hand with DMT.
Higher doses of them on their own have very psychedelic effects.

I hope that answered your question.
 
universecannon
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#9 Posted : 4/17/2014 9:05:05 PM
Harmalas are incredile and have their own psychedelic/thereaputic effects. Many of us hardly ever bother to take DMT in any form without them. To each there own I guess, but I would give them a chance at some point. A lot of people who just use the smallest amount necessary to activate the DMT are missing out on a whole other experience, but that's not to say those low-harmala experiences don't have their place to...



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maranello551
#10 Posted : 4/18/2014 1:32:03 AM
How would a low harmala, high dmt dose differ in feel and visuals from a high harmala, low dmt dose?
 
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#11 Posted : 4/18/2014 1:44:08 AM
It will feel deeper but not as long lasting. At least that's what she said.
 
maranello551
#12 Posted : 4/18/2014 4:49:50 AM
Thank you and Hehe. So harmala dose influences duration while dmt dose influences strength? Do more harmalas require more dmt to match or less dmt since mao will be better inhibited?
 
DreaMTripper
#13 Posted : 4/18/2014 1:07:37 PM
Would a 5g rue tea be a decent starter dose for a pyschedelic level harmala experience? Is there any good way to counter the nausea and vascoconstriction?
 
maranello551
#14 Posted : 4/18/2014 5:41:29 PM
Well, for his mushrooms, swim takes rue often, but doesn't make tea. Rather he grinds it up with a "Magic Bullet" (basically a super coffee grinder), pour some water in his mouth, pours the rue into the water, and swallows. Seems to work rather well for MAO inhibition with mushrooms. Also minimal nausea. Not sure if that's just swim's strong stomach or other..Would this route of administration work for the rue to be taken prior to the DMT dose?
 
maranello551
#15 Posted : 4/21/2014 3:30:41 AM
maranello551 wrote:
So harmala dose influences duration while dmt dose influences strength? Do more harmalas require more dmt to match or less dmt since mao will be better inhibited?


Anyone?
 
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#16 Posted : 4/21/2014 3:50:06 AM
Is this really not covered in the FAQ?

Yes to your first question, but harmalas can also add to the strength as well especially at higher doses. No you don't need more DMT if you use more harmalas.
 
maranello551
#17 Posted : 4/21/2014 3:53:28 AM
Does it add to the strength in the same way as adding dmt does? Or is it different?

Also, is there a plateau point for added harmala effect? Say would 3.5g of rue with cubes or DMT be different from 5g of rue with the same amount (since I've heard 3g provide full inhibition).
 
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#18 Posted : 4/21/2014 4:02:55 AM
It's different. See for yourself. Sounds like a good experiment.
 
maranello551
#19 Posted : 4/21/2014 5:09:37 AM
Will do. Thank you for helping me out on so many questions. Sometimes I feel like I'm bothering the nexus with my questions. :/
 
Atlas_
#20 Posted : 4/22/2014 12:56:56 AM
they're always trying to conserve space on the server so try the chat a couple times and do a very thorough search of the nexus to see if your question has already been answered (usually the case) before making a thread. And put all your questions in one Thumbs up
 
 
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