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KASH's mescaline TEK Options
 
Green Rust
#1 Posted : 3/22/2014 9:34:25 PM
Hi,

New member here. As I just signed up, I am unable to send KASH a PM. I have a question about the mescaline TEK. It mentions mixing in certain steps. Would stirring with a glass rod be enough for the mixing?

Thanks
-Rust
 
Green Rust
#2 Posted : 4/5/2014 7:11:23 AM
bump

If anyone can help..

Specifically step 6 in the tek. Not really sure how to mix. Should I be stirring or shaking the container?

Thanks
 
Entheogenerator
#3 Posted : 4/5/2014 12:19:59 PM
Personally, I would turn the jar end-over-end gently, being careful not to spash the liquid around. This will allow the NPS to mix with the aqueous layer thoroughly, without increasing the risk of creating an emulsion. Thumbs up
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Kash
Senior Member | Skills: Chemistry and Programming
#4 Posted : 4/6/2014 6:44:25 AM
Basically anyway that gets the layer mixing together well. Turning the jar end over end is a good method without causing excess air to get trapped and cause a huge emulsion mess, which is more likely with shaking. Glass stir rod probably wouldnt cut it, more like a wooden spoon or the end over end method.
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Green Rust
#5 Posted : 4/6/2014 6:55:51 AM
Great thanks!
 
Green Rust
#6 Posted : 4/6/2014 6:59:11 AM
I was able to get my hands on eight 12 inch cuttings. What is the maximum number of cuttings you would suggest I use?
 
Kash
Senior Member | Skills: Chemistry and Programming
#7 Posted : 4/6/2014 7:32:00 AM
What kind and have you tested the source before? If its pachanoi and you havent tested before I would recommend trying with 1 first before you put in a lot of uneccessary work. Pachanoi's are very unreliable with potency.
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Green Rust
#8 Posted : 4/6/2014 8:26:46 AM
Ive got Bridgesii.

I think testing it is a good idea regardless.. If it turns out good, would doing a batch of 7 be too much?
 
Green Rust
#9 Posted : 4/8/2014 8:40:37 PM
One more thing. Is it possible to substitute the xylene/toluene with d-limonene?

Thanks
 
Kash
Senior Member | Skills: Chemistry and Programming
#10 Posted : 4/9/2014 3:31:52 AM
If you know what you are doing 7 would not be too much. Start small and then share your results. Smile
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Green Rust
#11 Posted : 4/10/2014 11:08:29 PM
Thanks, will do. I'm excited to give it a try.

Just curious about d-limonene. I know it is used to extract mescaline, I'm wondering if it could be used in place of toluene or xylene for this tek? Cant seem to find any xylene/toluene. Has anyone tried this?

Appreciate the help
Thanks
 
Kash
Senior Member | Skills: Chemistry and Programming
#12 Posted : 4/11/2014 6:07:17 AM
Yes indeed.
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Green Rust
#13 Posted : 4/11/2014 3:52:26 PM
Great Very happy

In the additional purification part of the tek it stresses that the solvent ratios must be followed exactly. If I substitute d-limonene for toluene here, will the ratios for the other solvents remain the same?

Thanks for your continued help
 
Green Rust
#14 Posted : 5/4/2014 7:28:26 AM
Mescaline HCL was successfully extracted. I have a question about washing in cold mek. How exactly is this done. Mek was placed in the freezer for a few hours, a small amount was put in a beaker and 1g of mesc hcl was added to it. The mesc was smashed up and swirled around for a few minutes, then the mek was decanted off. The end result was not much different in appearance (light tan color).

Is this the correct procedure? Any tips would be great

Thanks
 
Adjhart
#15 Posted : 5/4/2014 7:34:09 AM
I don't have a mescaline tip but I bet if you add pictures your chances for good tips will go up!
 
PogoTheMonkey
#16 Posted : 5/6/2014 11:32:09 PM
Hello, glad to hear this ten worked well I am hoping to take a shot at it myself here soon. How much plate material did you end up using and was it wet or dryed?
 
dg
Cacti expert
#17 Posted : 5/7/2014 12:48:00 AM
Green Rust wrote:
Mescaline HCL was successfully extracted. I have a question about washing in cold mek. How exactly is this done. Mek was placed in the freezer for a few hours, a small amount was put in a beaker and 1g of mesc hcl was added to it. The mesc was smashed up and swirled around for a few minutes, then the mek was decanted off. The end result was not much different in appearance (light tan color).

Is this the correct procedure? Any tips would be great

Thanks



never had much luck with washes of mek or acetone
now a re-x using either is trickier but makes for much nicer material.

with out writing for ages my method is like this:
add mek or acetone to dry powder you wish to purify
heat the mix (careful here! be safe- flamable solovents are more volatile when heated!!!!!!!) you might need to add a drop or two of water to get it to all disolve.
keep heating it to evap some of the mix and drive off any water
let it cool down- possibly move to freezer
filter pure needles from the mix and rinse with fresh ice cold anhydrous acetone
 
Green Rust
#18 Posted : 5/7/2014 1:56:58 AM
PogoTheMonkey wrote:
Hello, glad to hear this ten worked well I am hoping to take a shot at it myself here soon. How much plate material did you end up using and was it wet or dryed?


Two foot long cuttings of bridgesii were used. They were fresh cuttings which were diced up into small pieces. They were then frozen and thawed 3X.

The tek worked very well. I would suggest to pay particular attention to the salting phase. The first go, too much acid was used, resulted in a maroon color. The next go, drops were added a few at a time until ph 6-7.

Here is a pic after MEK wash. There was no pic taken before the wash, but the color was very close, maybe slightly darker.
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Green Rust
#19 Posted : 5/7/2014 2:03:28 AM
dg wrote:
never had much luck with washes of mek or acetone
now a re-x using either is trickier but makes for much nicer material.

with out writing for ages my method is like this:
add mek or acetone to dry powder you wish to purify
heat the mix (careful here! be safe- flamable solovents are more volatile when heated!!!!!!!) you might need to add a drop or two of water to get it to all disolve.
keep heating it to evap some of the mix and drive off any water
let it cool down- possibly move to freezer
filter pure needles from the mix and rinse with fresh ice cold anhydrous acetone


Thanks, I'll give it a shot
 
Yoho
#20 Posted : 5/7/2014 3:10:15 AM
Green Rust wrote:
PogoTheMonkey wrote:
Hello, glad to hear this ten worked well I am hoping to take a shot at it myself here soon. How much plate material did you end up using and was it wet or dryed?


Two foot long cuttings of bridgesii were used. They were fresh cuttings which were diced up into small pieces. They were then frozen and thawed 3X.

The tek worked very well. I would suggest to pay particular attention to the salting phase. The first go, too much acid was used, resulted in a maroon color. The next go, drops were added a few at a time until ph 6-7.

Here is a pic after MEK wash. There was no pic taken before the wash, but the color was very close, maybe slightly darker.

Personally can't comment on your purification question but those crystals certainly do look scumptious Very happy, if you don't mind me asking how much weight did you end up with there?
 
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