Hello,

I'm soon hopefully getting this amazing molecule and can't wait to experience it.
I have read and decided that i'm gonna make a machine to smoke it.

I have just few questions:

1. About mesh: Would
Be okay? I'm from country that doesn't have choreboy etc.
Other option is
But they're more expensive.
Also have basic " metal " scrubbers.
I want to get it right, so please tell your opinion.

2. Do i drop spice into mesh, then put it into neck of bottle, heat the neck a sec so it melts, then start smoking?

3. So i have it loaded, i'll apply flame away from mesh, so it can start vaporizing, do i have to inhale at same time slowly at first until there's considerable amount of smoke - then inhale it = 1 toke. Hold it in for ~15secs, then repeat? Or just keep flame running, first slowly inhale, then a bit faster when more smoke and inhale and hold..god my english sucks and it's so hard to explain what i mean.
Wish there was a video someone showing it.

That first one says "copper coated" so becuase of this I would say no. The copper "coating" might come off upon heating and you wouldnt want that to happen.

The bottom one looks more promising as it strictly says "stainless steel".

You do know that you can order choreboy online for cheap right? Check amazon, but there are many others.

There are quite a few threads on technique and making and so on and so forth. Use the search function. Here's an easy way to research the info you are looking for...

https://www.google.com/s...channel=np&source=hp

I read around alot, but many different opinions, it was too confusing and would be hit and miss i'm afraid.

But i'f i get stainless steel ones, do i have to burn it before?
Also, what should my first dosage be? I have done MDMA many times, LSD a few - can't say i'm most experienced but i'm open minded.

There is a link in my sig that can help with dosages.

IMO all that is on the scrubber is mineral oil. This should be removed using acetone or a similar solvent. Just soak it for a min. Then let it out to dry for a day, away from any ignition sources of course.

I only tried the machine style a few times and didnt get very good results so i cant really comment on its use.

For your first time I'd say load up 40-50 mg because you are going to burn and waste some in the process of figuring it all out. This way if you start with a high amount 40-50mg you will most likely get a full dose regardless of your lack of experience.

GOOD LUCK!!

Personally i would say this is a bad idea. Yes it does insure a more likely scenario of getting a good size dose, but doesnt allow for the case where you accidentally do a stand up job with your technique and inhale all 40-50mg of DMT.

Some will agree with me. As that size of dose will rip your arms off and beat you with them. Best to start low working on technique. That way you know your learning with out blowing your face off.

But look how happy this being is with his face blown off

If i as you Anxiatic i would cut the mesh to size ,make sure its a nice fit to the bottle neck.
Then heat the mesh a little, pour your DMT 20 / 25 mg onto the hot mesh and it will instantlly melt and dissapear into/onto the mesh.
Place the mesh back into the bottle neck fully loaded and ready for action.
Hold the flame a few inches away from the mesh, let the heat rise onto it.
After a little while the bottle will start to fill with smoke.
Keep the lighter in position and start a slow long toke.
Dont exhale.
Bingo Bango Bongo , job done

Thank you guys, i'll let you know how it went when i have tried it. I think i'll start with 10-15mg since if i was doing it wrong, i wouldn't feel anything, right? And if i feel some effects, i know i'm on right track and can proceed to try with bigger dose.

What is the normal dose to breaktrough? I want to try maybe 2 times with low-medium dosage and then aim for breaktrough cause isn't that THE experience? Does that sound good to you guys?

I've found it's easier to just leave the mesh in the bottleneck. Put spice on top, heat the outside of the neck for a minute, and the spice will melt into it. If you put the cap on the bottle it will trap the heat in and melt faster.

I have never seen anyone fail to properly vaporize the spice using The Machine, it really is much easier than most techniques. So I agree that starting with 40-50mg is a terrible idea. Start with like 10mg and work your way up.

Breakthrough doses vary from person to person. Some people only need 25mg, others need 60. Best to start low and work your way up in 5mg increments.

Some people need 60? I would say that was due to technique, not because they needed that much for a breakthrough.

I can attest to some people needing more to break through than others, there is natural variation in all things. I personally have never ever been able to break through on less than 60 or 70mg, despite more than a year trying every possible route of administration and variation in technique. I need 80mg to consistently break through using enhanced leaf. I think I am little more attached to normal reality than most so it takes more coaxing for my brain to let go. I don't recommend trying these kinds of doses without first working up from lower ones - use only what you need.

Im curious. What is a 60mg dose like to you? Im wondering if its more like a 25 or 30 or if you have to go through the same intense experience i would have on that size dose to breakthrough?

hahahahaha i love this

thanks i thought it was funny

Also sorry for the "huge amount" I suggested, I've successfully vaped and held in for 20+ seconds 45mg in two hits and not "broken through" I get good visuals and a loud high pitched sound in my ears, and amazing body vibration, but so far I have not tripped for more than 5 solid minutes and never gotten close to that amazing breakthrough experience...yet. Maybe I'll try for 60mg after I finish my extractions...

Well I just tried 60mg via enhanced leaf in a bong to gauge the effects of that dosage, I made sure that I completely finished the bowl and held it in. It was stronger than expected but still sub-breakthrough, I was in control of the experience. I am still aware that I am in my room and doing DMT, there were moderate open-eye visuals, objects became rounded and the room became much brighter. I think I saw some hyper-fast entities moving on the edge of my vision. The effects lasted at peak for 5-8 minutes then another 10 minutes before returning to baseline. This sounds to me like what other people get with 20-30mg.

Ya i would agree. Crazy how some people have natural tolerance. I wonder what is at play with that kind of situation.

Personally i think there are many factors and even unknown ones, when it comes to DMT and the effects.
Some times a little can kick your butt and some times alot wont do alot.
I think where you go and what you experience has some thing to do with your DNA. In other words, who you are has an effect on what you experience and we are all different.
State of mind is also a factor i think.
Recently a tiny bit of changa had a really strong effect on me. Maybe it was because i was tired. Or maybe the DMT/Entities decided?
My advise to you Anxiatic is , Do it outside for the best experience. Indoors can be a bit scary some times, for me.
Outside , its all good.

any reason in particularly you think this? or is it pure speculation?