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Bdevall158
#1 Posted : 1/4/2014 8:18:31 PM
Hello fellow extractors, I have a few questions pertaining to doing Marsofolds tek on A. Confusa root bark. I just got 500 grams in whole pieces, and am eager to get some info on this asap. Ive done 4 successful extractions with marsofolds and MHRB, my last being the highest yeild of a little over 8 grams. The first three I went the naphtha route and freeze percipitated, but the 4th I used onle xylene and the FASA method. So my questions are: (and I apologize if these have already been asked, I cant find any direct info on this topic. )

1.) First of all will marsofolds work for ACRB?
2.)What will be the result if I do naphtha pulls and freeze percipitate? Will I get the same results as MHRB?, (which is loads of snow white freebase crystals in the jars)
3. Would the xylene and FASA route work to get fumarates instead, or which of the two would be better if they both work?

I am really interested in getting the full spectrum goo, so is perhaps neither of these a good method for that? This is my first time ever even looking into ACRB so excuse my lack of knowledge. Id perfer whatever is the most simple route of extraction, or the most promising. Since about two years ago when I first stumbled into ths world of extractions, I have slowly began to fully understand everything that I am actually doing in these extractions, instead of just reading the instructions and doing as told without actually grasping. So if someone could so kindly give me some advice on this topic It would be much appreciated. If I need to look into an entirely new tek, then I at least now feel much more confident in my ability to understand the chemistry. Thanks for any feed back

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Entheogenerator
#2 Posted : 1/4/2014 9:34:48 PM
Bdevall158 wrote:
Hello fellow extractors, I have a few questions pertaining to doing Marsofolds tek on A. Confusa root bark. I just got 500 grams in whole pieces, and am eager to get some info on this asap. Ive done 4 successful extractions with marsofolds and MHRB, my last being the highest yeild of a little over 8 grams. The first three I went the naphtha route and freeze percipitated, but the 4th I used onle xylene and the FASA method. So my questions are: (and I apologize if these have already been asked, I cant find any direct info on this topic. )

1.) First of all will marsofolds work for ACRB?
2.)What will be the result if I do naphtha pulls and freeze percipitate? Will I get the same results as MHRB?, (which is loads of snow white freebase crystals in the jars)
3. Would the xylene and FASA route work to get fumarates instead, or which of the two would be better if they both work?

I am really interested in getting the full spectrum goo, so is perhaps neither of these a good method for that? This is my first time ever even looking into ACRB so excuse my lack of knowledge. Id perfer whatever is the most simple route of extraction, or the most promising. Since about two years ago when I first stumbled into ths world of extractions, I have slowly began to fully understand everything that I am actually doing in these extractions, instead of just reading the instructions and doing as told without actually grasping. So if someone could so kindly give me some advice on this topic It would be much appreciated. If I need to look into an entirely new tek, then I at least now feel much more confident in my ability to understand the chemistry. Thanks for any feed back

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Marsofold's tek will work for ACRB, as will just about any A/B tek. When I first started working with ACRB, I used Marsofold's tek plus the defat from Lextek and I always got clean, fluffy, white crystals.

If you follow Marsofold's tek as written, without adding a defat, you will most likely yield DMT/NMT goo. Not quite full spectrum, but not quite pure DMT either.

Xylene and FASA would most likely yield slightly more of a full-spectrum extract, although I have not used this method so I can only speak from what I have read on The Nexus. Both the naphtha + freeze-precip and the xylene + FASA route will work, but naphtha + freeze-precip may be a bit easier and simpler and xylene + FASA may produce more of a full-spectrum extract.

Marsofold's tek is a standard A/B without a defat so it would be the most simple route and the most promising for DMT/NMT goo. Marsofold's tek plus a defat and prehaps a re-x would be the most promising for crystals. Xylene + FASA would be the most promising for "Jim Jam" full spectrum, from my understanding.

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Bdevall158
#3 Posted : 1/4/2014 10:39:26 PM
Gracias amigo! Big grin
Thats exactly what I was hoping to hear. Im very excited to learn the ways of acrb, as it seems like a very promising future leader for extraction. I will start asap on this exciting chemistry and try and post some photos of the process. I imagine that if I do the naphtha and freeze percipitate first, I can just follow up with the xylene + FASA route just like with MHRB. I will certainly post the process of the xylene + FASA method when I get to that because it seems to have little discussion on it. but then again ive had my nose in the mhrb teks for two years now, so maybe its time to flip the page Razz
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Entheogenerator
#4 Posted : 1/4/2014 11:17:28 PM
Bdevall158 wrote:
Gracias amigo! Big grin
Thats exactly what I was hoping to hear. Im very excited to learn the ways of acrb, as it seems like a very promising future leader for extraction. I will start asap on this exciting chemistry and try and post some photos of the process. I imagine that if I do the naphtha and freeze percipitate first, I can just follow up with the xylene + FASA route just like with MHRB. I will certainly post the process of the xylene + FASA method when I get to that because it seems to have little discussion on it. but then again ive had my nose in the mhrb teks for two years now, so maybe its time to flip the page Razz

Hope it goes well for you. Look into Thick-Light's tek for a good method of basically recrystallizing while you extract. It seems to work well for most people who try it. I think if you use his method, you could skip the defat.

There is actually a fair amount of info on the forum and the Wiki about FASA/FASW/FASI methods, they just don't see quite as much action as the standard A/B & STB teks probably do.
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