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Sublingual bufotenine + Datura stramonium = EUPHORIA! Options
 
69ron
#1 Posted : 6/7/2009 3:55:17 AM
SWIM is currently not able to smoke anything. He has a cold and just can't hold any smoke at all.

About 1 hour ago he chewed 3 Datura stramonium seeds thoroughly and then swallowed them. 5 minutes later he took 50 mg of pure white freebase bufotenine sublingually. He held it there for 10 minutes and then swallowed. Within about 20 minutes or so the effects began. It peaked after about 50 minutes. There were light visual effects, but the most interesting part was the euphoria. The Datura seeds added quite a lot of euphoria to the experience.

It's a very nice combination. It's not as euphoric as mescaline + Datura, but still very nice.

SWIM likes this for when he's got little time to trip and needs to do important tasks so he can't be intoxicated. This level of bufotenine is not at all intoxicating with or without the Datura.

SWIM is really glad to have found so many uses for Datura stramonium seeds. They seem to be an all around trip enhancer. They work very well with every psychedelic SWIM has tried them with.

Right now SWIM feels that magical LSD-like excited feeling. It's quite nice. This is much more pleasant that bufotenine on it's own. VERY EUPHORIC!
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
Jorkest
Moderator | Skills: Extraction Troubleshooting, (S)elf ProgrammingChemical expert | Skills: Extraction Troubleshooting, (S)elf Programming
#2 Posted : 6/7/2009 5:59:44 AM
SWEET..SWIM is about to try this RIGHT now... Smile
it's a sound
 
69ron
#3 Posted : 6/7/2009 6:18:36 AM
Let me know how it goes. I'm excited to see if anyone else gets the same effects as SWIM.

Man SWIM just loves those Datura seeds in small doses. They flat out improve everything SWIM has tried them with. It’s amazing. They’re like a universal potentiater of psychedelics. Just awesome. SWIM is always going to have them handy from now on. He’s also tried them with LSA and it’s fantastic, and of course he’s tried them with mescaline and it’s unbelievably nice! He hasn’t tried them with THH or harmine or ayahuasca yet, but he will very soon. Maybe later tonightSmile
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
idtravlr
Senior Member
#4 Posted : 6/7/2009 7:07:47 AM
Jorkest - Can't wait to hear your results

69ron - I'm going to try +-250mg of 93% to 95% pure b. caapi harmala extract w/ 3 d. stramonium seeds. Hope to have a report for you tomorrow. I'm guessing this should produce a nice warm euphoria with maybe some light visuals. Any thoughts?
I am not a drug addict seeking escape from reality. I am an explorer of consciousness challenging consensus reality.

…is DMT dangerous? The answer is only if you fear death by astonishment… [crowd laughter]… Remember how you laughed when this possibility was raised… a moment will come that will wipe the smile right off your face.
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69ron
#5 Posted : 6/7/2009 8:39:19 AM
I'm expecting with that combination that there would be an increase in the visuals for sure, and definitely extra euphoria.
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
69ron
#6 Posted : 6/7/2009 8:42:30 AM
Gee, it's been many hours and SWIM still feels the effects of the bufotenine! The Datura stramonium seeds greatly extended the trip this time. WOW. The seeds must have been extra potent this time.
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
69ron
#7 Posted : 6/7/2009 9:01:33 AM
SWIM is not trying the THH + Datura test tonight. He still feels the bufotenine. It's been 7 hours! Normally he wouldn't feel anything at all past the 3 hour point. The Datura definitely extended the trip.
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
idtravlr
Senior Member
#8 Posted : 6/7/2009 10:31:07 AM
Haha! Awesome! That's great that you're getting such duration out of it!

It's looking like Monday is my day for the harmine / harmaline / THH extract combo to go with the seeds. Too much activity planned for tomorrow, but Monday looks to be the day! Please keep us posted on the THH d. stram. combo, and I'll be sure to be posting on my ride on Monday. With any luck my bro jtar will be coming along for the ride! I've got my doses already in capsules and am ready to go!
If all is going to plan we'll probly vape some spice mid travel.

You're an inspiration man! More to come soon!

Peace
-idt
I am not a drug addict seeking escape from reality. I am an explorer of consciousness challenging consensus reality.

…is DMT dangerous? The answer is only if you fear death by astonishment… [crowd laughter]… Remember how you laughed when this possibility was raised… a moment will come that will wipe the smile right off your face.
-Terence McKenna
 
Jorkest
Moderator | Skills: Extraction Troubleshooting, (S)elf ProgrammingChemical expert | Skills: Extraction Troubleshooting, (S)elf Programming
#9 Posted : 6/7/2009 4:17:05 PM
SWIM has taken datura s. with thh, harmaline and dmt fumarate..it was very nice...but

the datura s. with sublingual bufotenine was VERY euphoric...it was so nice...absolutely no nausea at all...and the bufotenine actually tasted ok(mmmm...oranges)...SWIM had also taken a small hit of acid earlier in the day and also had been smoking some bufotenine, dmt, and some salvia in a changa mix of passionflower, peppermint, mullein, caapi, salvia...was starting to come down from the acid when he took the datura s. and the bufotenine..

he took 3 datura seeds...and 75mg bufotenine from the d-limonene tek

SWIM took it late at night and his gf had already gone to bed..so he stayed up and enjoyed the effects until he got too tired...and crawled into bed and fell right asleep and had some awesome and intense dreams...

he woke up STILL feeling the effects..no badness at all...excited feeling..and also euphoric..with slight visual disturbances...nothing special but just a tad

SWIM agrees with 69ron about always having some datura seeds around...they are awesome addons to every psychedelic he has tried them with...really adds a lot of euphoria...AND no nausea from swallowing the bufotenine after holding it in his mouth for 10 minutes..

SWIM wonders if this anti-nausea effect would work on smoked impure bufotenine...like straight seeds
it's a sound
 
69ron
#10 Posted : 6/7/2009 5:38:35 PM
I love these seeds. They extended the trip, made it more euphoric, completely blocked the nausea, and there was no negative impact at all. They are perfect additions to bufotenine.

I bet the anti-nausea effect would work with the straight seeds.

I'm surprised shamans didn't know about this. I've never heard of this combination before anywhere. I've heard of tobacco, coca, and caapi being used with these seeds, but never tiny doses of Datura.
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
ModeratorSenior Member
#11 Posted : 6/8/2009 4:41:27 PM
Reading off the other thread regarding HBWR seeds.. SWIM wonders about chewing 3 datura s. seeds + 1-2 HBWR seeds snuffed?

Has any SWIMs tried that as of yet?
 
soulfood
Senior Member | Skills: DMT, Harmaloids, Bufotenine, Mescaline, Trip advice
#12 Posted : 6/8/2009 6:06:20 PM
would bufo fumerate work sublingually?

I've had no success with keeping my freebase bufo as it should be, so Im saving what little fumerate I have until I buy myself a clue.



Also, yesterday tried 350mg mescaline + 5 datura s. seeds + 300mg theobromine. Nice Smile

I take back everything I ever thought about dartura. Just turns out people weren't using it for the right reasons.
 
69ron
#13 Posted : 6/8/2009 6:25:48 PM
DMTtripn2Space wrote:
Reading off the other thread regarding HBWR seeds.. SWIM wonders about chewing 3 datura s. seeds + 1-2 HBWR seeds snuffed?

Has any SWIMs tried that as of yet?


SWIM has not tried snuffing the HBWR seeds, but has tried them orally with 3 Datura stramonium seeds chewed thoroughly and the combined effect is FANTASTIC.
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
69ron
#14 Posted : 6/8/2009 6:31:30 PM
soulfood wrote:
would bufo fumerate work sublingually?


Yes it works sublingually, not as well as freebase though. It's less visual and has more body effects, but if taken with 3 Datura stramonium seeds the negative body effects are blocked.

soulfood wrote:
I've had no success with keeping my freebase bufo as it should be, so Im saving what little fumerate I have until I buy myself a clue.


What do you mean "as it should be"?

soulfood wrote:
Also, yesterday tried 350mg mescaline + 5 datura s. seeds + 300mg theobromine. Nice Smile

I take back everything I ever thought about dartura. Just turns out people weren't using it for the right reasons.


Yeah, I don't know why it ever got popular to overdose on Datura for dangerous delirium effects. In the proper dose it's safe and actually quite nice with other psychedelics. SWIM loves having them around now and sees them a as very valuable admixture when used in completely safe microdoses (10 seeds or less of Datura stramonium).
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
soulfood
Senior Member | Skills: DMT, Harmaloids, Bufotenine, Mescaline, Trip advice
#15 Posted : 6/8/2009 6:51:39 PM
69ron wrote:




soulfood wrote:
I've had no success with keeping my freebase bufo as it should be, so Im saving what little fumerate I have until I buy myself a clue.


What do you mean "as it should be"?



As in, not black and gooey. I've had near enough partially formed crystals that have turned to mush within hours.
 
69ron
#16 Posted : 6/8/2009 7:33:30 PM
I believe that's the nauseating N-Oxides in the alkaloid extract making it like that. The best way to fix that is by precipitating bufotenine using the xylene boil technique.
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
soulfood
Senior Member | Skills: DMT, Harmaloids, Bufotenine, Mescaline, Trip advice
#17 Posted : 6/8/2009 7:44:16 PM
69ron wrote:
I believe that's the nauseating N-Oxides in the alkaloid extract making it like that. The best way to fix that is by precipitating bufotenine using the xylene boil technique.


I was afraid of that. Finished all my xylene last week, thinking I'd never need it's smelly soul anymore as I only used it for jungle spice/fumerate.

It's going to be some months before I have the oppotunity to extract this substance again, but I'm keeping my ears to the ground for good seeds and keeping my eyes peeled for new information.
 
ModeratorSenior Member
#18 Posted : 6/9/2009 1:11:55 AM
69ron wrote:
DMTtripn2Space wrote:
Reading off the other thread regarding HBWR seeds.. SWIM wonders about chewing 3 datura s. seeds + 1-2 HBWR seeds snuffed?

Has any SWIMs tried that as of yet?


SWIM has not tried snuffing the HBWR seeds, but has tried them orally with 3 Datura stramonium seeds chewed thoroughly and the combined effect is FANTASTIC.


Do you just chew all the seeds at once? Just curious because SWIMS got fresh HBWR seeds on order along with some Datura s. seeds.

SWIM was looking to use a mortar and pestle to grind the HBRW seeds and snuff them, but if you did it orally and had a great time maybe then SWIM should just go ahead and try that?

We'll give it a go n' see. Smile
 
69ron
#19 Posted : 6/9/2009 4:17:41 AM
DMTtripn2Space wrote:
Do you just chew all the seeds at once? Just curious because SWIMS got fresh HBWR seeds on order along with some Datura s. seeds.

SWIM was looking to use a mortar and pestle to grind the HBRW seeds and snuff them, but if you did it orally and had a great time maybe then SWIM should just go ahead and try that?

We'll give it a go n' see. Smile


SWIM chews the 3 Datura stramonium seeds and swallows them after taking the HBWR.

He performs a complex extraction on the HBWR seeds normally. But other times he does the cold water extraction tech overnight using peppermint tea instead of water (this is said to make LSH with is MUCH BETTER THAN LSA).
You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.

If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
 
ModeratorSenior Member
#20 Posted : 6/9/2009 5:39:29 AM
69ron wrote:
DMTtripn2Space wrote:
Do you just chew all the seeds at once? Just curious because SWIMS got fresh HBWR seeds on order along with some Datura s. seeds.

SWIM was looking to use a mortar and pestle to grind the HBRW seeds and snuff them, but if you did it orally and had a great time maybe then SWIM should just go ahead and try that?

We'll give it a go n' see. Smile


SWIM chews the 3 Datura stramonium seeds and swallows them after taking the HBWR.

He performs a complex extraction on the HBWR seeds normally. But other times he does the cold water extraction tech overnight using peppermint tea instead of water (this is said to make LSH with is MUCH BETTER THAN LSA).



Thanks ron. Just wanted to clear that up Smile
 
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