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How to determine mg of DMT Options
 
hooray
#1 Posted : 10/14/2013 7:04:47 AM
My friend noticed people taking certian mg doses of dmt. He was wondering how to determine mg of his last extraction. He thinks he is smoking way too much in attempts to get completly dissolved. He just got a Vapor genie. Before he was just packing bowls in a tin foil pipe.Rolling eyes
 
ewok
#2 Posted : 10/14/2013 7:42:13 AM
buy some mg scales.
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Entheogenerator
#3 Posted : 10/14/2013 8:17:33 AM
ewok wrote:
buy some mg scales.

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thecrystalkid
#4 Posted : 10/14/2013 8:50:06 AM
cost me about £15 on ebay, should do the trick.

edit: this is the same as the one i bought, down to 0.001 g £13.89, except i bought locally and was £16.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/it...amp;hash=item2c66275db0

heres a whole bunch of them http://www.ebay.co.uk/sc...;_sacat=0&_from=R40

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Du57mi73
#5 Posted : 10/14/2013 1:07:08 PM
Lol. I find it funny that you would ask how someone would weigh something. Probably a scale. Lol. When buying a scale make sure that it reads to ATLEAST .01g. .01g is going to be 10mg. .05g is 50mg.

I prefer to use traditional scales.
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hooray
#6 Posted : 10/14/2013 6:01:32 PM
Ya ill look into a scale. But is just packing a decent sized bowl reckless for now or should i know my mg.
 
Pup Tentacle
#7 Posted : 10/14/2013 6:02:13 PM
kinda reckless..... that hole can be bottomless.... take care Smile
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Grower
#8 Posted : 10/14/2013 6:05:14 PM
How on earth you get a balance scale to work at mg levels?
Are there such scales?

Edit:
I also very surprised at the cheap levels mentioned.
Digital Mg level scales usually cost quite much and if going one step better 0,1 mg, then the prices start to be ridiculous high.
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Grower
#9 Posted : 10/14/2013 6:18:48 PM
As i don't own a mg scale, my attempts to figure out dose weights goes like this:

I do have a scale weighting 0,1 grams, so i first weigh up 0,5 grams of the substance.
I then divide this pile into 10 equal sized lines or piles with a razor.
Each line or pile now is about 50mg.
If needed this can be divided one more time to piles of 25mg.

It is very important to know that this only works if the substance in matter is totally uniform.
If the substance is consisting of very fluffy parts as well as chunks of more solid pieces this can give very false results.
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hooray
#10 Posted : 10/14/2013 6:50:16 PM
OMG thank you for that reply my friend has been smoking way too much
 
Bill Cipher
#11 Posted : 10/14/2013 8:09:43 PM
A recommendation to use a scale and weigh your doses is enough to determine that you've been smoking too much?
 
jamie
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#12 Posted : 10/14/2013 8:31:46 PM
To be honest, I have never owned a mg scale in my life..nor have I ever weighed out a dose of vaporized DMT. I just weighed my extraction, made change and eyeballed my doses. I always extract the same amount of DMT, and I always make change with the same amount of leaf so it is easy for me to just eyeball a dose. It takes some time though.

Trying to eyeball goo vs crystal etc is a bit more tricky as density can differ, and then you can easily overshoot.
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Du57mi73
#13 Posted : 10/14/2013 9:59:50 PM
I was entirely jjoking about using that kind of scale.

I do like Growers idea about weighing .5g and breaking it up a few times. But that can also be slightly misleading. A pea sized crystal should weigh around 30mg or so. I always keep that in mind. Just use pea sized chunks. If you have a powdered dmt then you just put a thin layer of spice across the top of your herbs or whatever you use. Don't pack just spice alone. And certainly don't just cram a bunch in. What matters more than how much you put in is how you hit it. You can pack 200mg but if you hit it right you can get a 50mg hit off of it. But if you pack 30mg and clear it you're only going to get a 30mg hit.

Smoke safely.
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hooray
#14 Posted : 10/15/2013 1:25:57 AM
Nice i like the pea example. Im gonna try again tonight after AA. Thank you guys
 
Infundibulum
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#15 Posted : 10/15/2013 2:21:55 AM
Grower wrote:
How on earth you get a balance scale to work at mg levels?
Are there such scales?

Yes; i use such a balance scale for measuring mgs. Not as rudimentary as the picture above thought... It takes some time to weigh something accurately but on the other hand it needs no batteries, maintenance is easy and as long as your weights are accurate, you have confidence in the measurements.


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Du57mi73
#16 Posted : 10/15/2013 4:31:47 AM
Infundibulum wrote:
Grower wrote:
How on earth you get a balance scale to work at mg levels?
Are there such scales?

Yes; i use such a balance scale for measuring mgs. Not as rudimentary as the picture above thought... It takes some time to weigh something accurately but on the other hand it needs no batteries, maintenance is easy and as long as your weights are accurate, you have confidence in the measurements.



True science. Lol.
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TheUntamedSky
#17 Posted : 10/15/2013 5:44:29 AM
I highly recommend two scales, depending on the precision you need. They are both quite accurate.

The 0.01 g scale, and a calibration weight. This scale goes up to 1000 grams (100,000 mg):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SC3LLS/


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010TGEQE/



Or the 0.001 g scale, which comes with the two callibration weights it requires. It measures up to 20 grams (2,000 mg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012TDNAM/
 
lobo
#18 Posted : 10/15/2013 2:19:16 PM
jamie wrote:
To be honest, I have never owned a mg scale in my life..nor have I ever weighed out a dose of vaporized DMT. I just weighed my extraction, made change and eyeballed my doses. I always extract the same amount of DMT, and I always make change with the same amount of leaf so it is easy for me to just eyeball a dose. It takes some time though.

Trying to eyeball goo vs crystal etc is a bit more tricky as density can differ, and then you can easily overshoot.



Jamie... what ratio of changa use?? 1:1 ?
 
Du57mi73
#19 Posted : 10/15/2013 3:52:31 PM
I have the scale in the first picture Untamed posted. It works great for the entire process.
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"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -AE
 
zzzwurple
#20 Posted : 10/23/2013 3:40:30 PM
I use Dillon balance scales. Can weigh 30mg easy (.44 grains) and up. I also guesstimate. Maybe it's reckless but it's sort of hard to not know when enough is enough. With vaped DMT anyway. These are good scales though and better than anything digital in the same price range. About $70 USD.
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