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vineseeker
#1 Posted : 9/24/2013 12:10:46 PM
High, I dont know why this is occuring but my Yield is pretty much a joke.
I used 250g ACRB and after 6 Pulls with 500ml naptha I have 500mg crystal and this Goo

as yield. Used cybs MaxIon tek and did everything as said.

I will re-x it but this still cannot be goodSad I did an STB on the cooked bark to try get something but there is not much in that.

What is going wrong here ?
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cyb
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#2 Posted : 9/24/2013 12:39:21 PM
It's quite possible that your bark is not what 'they' say it is...
OR it's just low in actives.

Also that naphtha ^ has a lot of foreign material in it.
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3rdI
#3 Posted : 9/24/2013 12:46:49 PM
are you using a different process/bark than you used to get those lovely crystals last week?
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vineseeker
#4 Posted : 9/24/2013 12:47:52 PM
cyb wrote:


Also that naphtha ^ has a lot of foreign material in it.


I should not use naphtha as solvent? I have ultra clean naphtha from the pharmacy.

thanks
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vineseeker
#5 Posted : 9/24/2013 12:50:50 PM
3rdI wrote:
are you using a different process/bark than you used to get those lovely crystals last week?



no, its still the same but after the 3rd pull there was no more of these crystals forming, so I have 500mg of those and the goo which could get another 300mg but thats still really bad.. I just wonder because I still get cloudy naptha after the 7th pull but the amount decreases.

And like I said I based the cooked bark for a pull but it doesnt look like theres much in it. Sad
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3rdI
#6 Posted : 9/24/2013 12:56:22 PM
so this is what you got from the pulls after the pulls which produced the white fluffy stuff?

if so then maybe you have got everything out of the bark that was in there, which means your bark is pretty bunk.
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vineseeker
#7 Posted : 9/24/2013 1:05:36 PM
the white crystals formed first yes. After that there were/ are still crystals forming but these always form goo after I scape them up, When I re-x that goo i get small amount of white fluff again etc..
Well I will ask my supply, the bark look legit like Acacia ...
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vineseeker
#8 Posted : 9/24/2013 6:14:46 PM
I have a new question. Since that yield was pathetic I added 100g Salt and based the solution a bit moreBig grin

After 6h I have a news in the freezer seems like much more product but it does not look like before at allSurprised There is no base layer contamination in the naptha here... still the color is ? I shaked a lot longer this time...



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olympus mon
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#9 Posted : 9/24/2013 6:59:56 PM
I have had similar things happen after the bark shortage. The solvent turning like coffee and yield pathetically low. What does come out is sticky and hard to clean up I ended up doing another STB on my dmt.

From talks with other namely Snozz I think its not inner root bark but outer. He had the same issue with outer bark before and our yields were the exact same. about .4%
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vineseeker
#10 Posted : 9/24/2013 7:53:49 PM
Thats helpful info olympus, thanks. It could very well be outer root which would explain alot. Guess I cook a whole kilo down to a liter if I want decent amount of product.
These damn suppliers, I need the good bark Laughing

now I have to do sodium wash on the goo and the new stuff. Rolling eyes
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olympus mon
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#11 Posted : 9/24/2013 9:30:25 PM
It's exactly like you described. The first pull was bright white fluffy crystals. And then all the ones after that were sticky and Goey. I wasted so much time trying to wash it I re xed it like five times. I would simply dissolved and hot water and do a straight to base. This got me white crystals again
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vineseeker
#12 Posted : 9/24/2013 10:19:36 PM
the solution is forming crystal again after stb like you said. I think your 0.4% is a very good estimate on this bark too. Sad
I also think my solution is pretty much down to nothing, start to get reddish naptha from the pulls. guess have to do stb everytime, so guess its not worth the effort anymore... Better to use the rest of the bark Big grin
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vineseeker
#13 Posted : 10/7/2013 9:45:56 AM
I might just have found the reason for my problem. Big grin

Quote:
Stems

N-methyltryptamine, 0.04%[5]
N,N-dimethyltryptamine, 0.01%[5]

Phyllodes


Which comes really damn close to my own experience in this extraction!
So they sold me some outer trunk bark instead of root bark and this bark was also mostly from very young trees so it has close to stem %. Have to find another supplier, price might not be everything to look for hereBig grin
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