I wanted to open up a discussion regarding the infamous sweet spot. We have the dosage pretty much dialed in in terms of how much you need to vape for a breakthrough etc., but I wanted to see if we could get some anecdotal input from members about their preferred dose. It seems like a lot of people are having trouble finding that nice little niche in hyperspace while other more seasoned, or maybe just lucky members, have got it down to a science.

Obviously not everyone is going to be the same, but I'm wondering if maybe we aren't so different. I think it would be great if we could get some Nexians opinions on their personal sweet spot. Please include the following:

1.Pure freebase DMT or Changa (harmalas & DMT) Dosage
2.Method- Vaporizing/Smoking
3.Subjective effects- these may vary but try to describe why you enjoy this dosage

I'm not exactly typical, but here's my current favorite which I am pretty happy with. DON'T try this unless you are very experienced.

I have been smoking some DMT enhanced leaf in a bong, 2:1 DMT:mullein, 130mg, so ~85mg of DMT per dose. Yes, this is a very high dose but I really prefer the full-on intensity, these are the most viscerally affecting experiences that lead to more profound personal breakthroughs. Granted, I don't ever get all of the dose, maybe 80 to 90%, but this is the most reliable way I've found to get the effects I am looking for. Smoking freebase is just more error-prone and harder for me to break through with.

My sweet spot tend to be between 35-40mg, though I started my journeys on 20mg.

This is my dosages for straight up freebase "n,n" being vaped via a machine with no potentiators in the mix (harmaline etc).

To be fair there are more times I wish I had taken a little less than had taken a little more (usually when I am nearer or just over that 40mg range, even if by a couple of points.

Outside of one time curiosity I cannot fathom much reason for going over 50mg (when vaping on its own at least).

Usually when I take less, I fall short of the intended mark and am unable to gain proper depth. I mostly go for CEV though my last few attempts were specifically OEV (while meditating in a garden).

OEV at the doses I choose tend to be highly fractal journeys. There is little "entity contact" outside of the telepathic streaming of thoughts between myself and the energies that seem to remain "blended in" to their environments.

Though I haven't weighed out my doses in years, I estimate my sweet spot to be somewhere around 20mg. Through my continual use of DMT I have become more sensitive to it where I need less to get to the same spots or further as 5-7mg more might have originally gotten me, but then again my technique with the GVG started off pretty poor initially so there was a big improvement in that category too which could explain some things about the apparent increase in sensitivity. I prefer to vaporize pure DMT without harmalas nor enhanced leaf out of the good ol' GVG. All I have is a bed of ashes I put it on (which certainly does the trick but sometimes I wonder if it "taints" the experience).

If the dose is properly delivered, the experience with this dosage range of 20mg goes a lil' something like this: In the span of the time it takes for me to hold my hit in, the textures of the room instantly shift followed by 2D patterns forming at the wall I'm looking at which then gain a 3D texture while remaining glued to the wall which will typically rupture from the wall as a 4D+ object/entity/entire scene. These 4D+ holograms then make their way over to me (because I'm usually concentrating straight ahead at them; if I were to shift my focus elsewhere in the room, they would follow my stream of attention to my focal point). As they make their way over they attempt to align themselves with my body and visual field. This is around when I will close my eyes.

If the hologram fully aligns with me, it becomes super-charged with energy and glows hyper neon-colors with high color frequencies. If only parts of it align with me, then only those parts will be "in phase" and receive the energetic and color boost. It should seem that giving them this extra energy gives them more ability to "pull out all the stops."

From there what happens is up in the air. It could really go any number of ways. It could result in either a breakthrough or sub-breakthrough experience. Either can include crystal clear, fully dimensional visions where though the eyes are shut, it seems like they're open - just somewhere else entirely in some other vibrantly colorful dimensions. Perhaps I'll end up at the hyper castle/dome where all of hyperspace seems to come together for me, or maybe if I'm lucky I'll hit something rare like an Egyptian temple.

If it goes into a breakthrough kind of sequence, there's a bit of an addendum to how things finish up. Often I will hear a deep, booming, echoing voice, cascading on itself - signaling the arrival of the godhead (I can usually hear its voice before I can see it/before it visually forms). A lot of the time it's almost as if it has to assemble itself, or sometimes when the lower entities are running their mazes, and individual sequences, it seems as if it's all sort of a major set-up operation for constructing this super-entity. From the outside it appears as predominantly pure white with some gold and a dash of red scattered around. It's hard to pin it down as saying it looks like any one thing, especially when my perspective of it seems to play a huge part (from different angles, seen from different dimensional perspectives, its geometry acts in very intricate and sophisticated yet simple ways to make it appear completely different. It's sort of like a gigantic beetle/UFO/train run off the tracks/overly exuberant man. If I'm in "trouble" he will hopefully show up to "save the day" and usually rather effortlessly. With the blink of an eye, it might realign its geometry to create a sacred Egyptian room, and with the ever-so-slightest shift in perspective, the stable geometry reveals itself to be something else entirely. I think the important thing to realize is that it is always all of these things at once, and that it's merely the observer's perspective based on their "dimensional angle" (did I just make up a term?).

More recently, a week or two ago my breakthrough was unexpectedly derailed somehow so I had the godhead in my bedroom but sort of not interacting with me. So I opened my eyes, stood up and proceeded to walk around my bedroom, studying it from different angles in my 3D space. At its core I saw an intricate mesh of interwoven hindu patterns that are not entirely uncommon in my experiences. The funny thing about godhead interactions is that it is so large, and my bedroom is rather small, so when the interaction is over, and I open my eyes, the energy that composes the godhead is so big that it sometimes fills up my room completely to an entirety like a full container of liquid so that all of the energy hangs densely in the air, not really being able to move about too much. This is extremely euphoric to be 100% engulfed in this divine energy.

This finally leads me to the how the conclusions of my experiences typically go. I will open up my eyes, and if there is enough "juice" left in the experience, the 4D+ holograms composing my closed-eye visions will proceed to do all sorts of things around my room, ranging from interacting with my body and limbs directly, to putting on fantastical displays yet still. Depending on the experience, things can either end euphorically, sleepily or with bogged-down emotions (in the case of unfortunate contact with negative entities).

Nice thread!

Wow Global, I enjoyed the details of how your experience unfolds. Interesting read.

I often experience something similar to the room being filled with the leftover energy after a deep breakthrough. Like a overlay of liquid alive energy made of fractals, shapes and colors.
It is like an explosion of something divine that's waiting for me when I get back. If I get up and walk out of the room into another, it will not have the same look or feel.



I don't think I've found my sweet spot with FB yet,
as I usually work with Changa and just kinda surf it like a wave
until I come coasting into hyperspace. I don't often weigh my doses when I'm working with this method.

My sweet spot seems to be around 30mg although I notice as time goes on and im more perceptive, that it takes less. I started out with 50-60mg doses, then slowly tapered back and now 30mg gives me a full breakthrough every time.

Global do you have any tricks for remembering your experiences with such detail? Even five minutes later I have trouble remembering what just happened, but you seem to have amazing recall.

Haven't found my DMT sweet spot yet, but it seems like 20mgs is a good place to start.

2grams of P. Cubensis is, as far as I am concerned, the perfect dose of the perfect drug.

Blessings
~ND

Varies per substance and mood

practice, practice, practice (i.e. journey a lot)

The kinds of experiences I described above happen with a regular predictability. Things certainly don't go like that every time, but then again this thread was talking about what one typically finds at a certain dosage range. The things I've described have happened to me numerous times, so it's given me a handful of opportunities to witness the same phenomena with which I become increasingly familiar. I've always been the kind of guy all my life who has gone to class and paid attention and I can still recall lessons and pertinent details with ease all the way from primary school all the way through college. I have a sort of similar approach with the DMT experience. I "show up for class" and pay close attention. A lot of the times it might be necessary to apply something you've learned a couple years ago in an old DMT experience to the current DMT to make the most sense out of it.

Another thing that goes in line with this concept of journeying a lot is about the way regular memory typically works. That is to say that memory tends to be based more on expectations than what one actually perceived. Since most of the times we're trying to access memories from consensual reality, and we're quite familiar with consensual reality, and have pretty firm expectations of how things should or could go, it is quite easy to build memories based on numerous past experiences. The example I like best is that of going to the grocery store. Right now, try to picture the last time you went to your local grocery store. Imagine walking in and looking around the aisles and seeing the items on the shelf. Chances are if you're able to conjure memories of items on the shelves, it has more to do with your expectations of certain foods even in certain sections perhaps, but you're not really remembering so much of what you actually perceived when you were there.

The thing with hyperspace is that we tend to be quite limited in our experiences there (certainly in comparison to our experiences in consensual reality) and as a result we have less expectations of what happens there. With few verbal labels to affix to the various stimuli from there combined with these low expectations, it becomes quite difficult to maintain much of a memory at all of what goes on there. As you travel more and more, you will experience some phenomena that remains the same/similar from certain experiences to others and this helps to build expectations of the kinds of goings-on there which helps to solidify memories. So even in these cases you'd still be building memories more highly out of expectations than actual experience where the most recallable ones are those that have either repeated a number of times, those that have some worded labels to go along with some of the imagery, and some of those that simply leave such an incredible emotional impact that the re-experiencing of similar emotion is enough to have some memories come flooding back.

On that note, even though I don't journey much with music anymore, I had found in the past that listening to music could actually help improve memory of the hyperspace experience, and here's how: Our memories work best with things for which we have verbal labels since we tend to be such verbal beings, but memories are also easily accessed when we have any number of "imprintable" stimuli to go along with them, especially in the absence of words. Emotions are also good at imprinting these memories and getting paired up with them, but music works really well too. So if you're listening to a song and you're experiencing something visual for which you have no words for, if instead you listen back to the same song, and maybe you remember, "oh well at this part of the song, I remember seeing this picture" then that can prevent it from sneaking off into the obscurities of forgottenhood. It's sort of like the difference between browsing through all the files on a computer with massive memory by route as opposed to doing a search for a keyword that easily helps retrieve the file.

Bottom line is the more you journey, the easier the memories will come. Also write about your experiences as best you can. Even if they're not elaborate at first, or you don't like the writing style, practice always helps at improving, and if it's memory you're looking to increase, it helps to start trying to merge the realms of the unwordable with the wordable as much as you can. You don't even have to post them if you don't want to, and if you find it starts interfering with things, you can always stop.

Yes, the music thing is definitely true. When I journey with music I certainly have better recall, and afterwards I will listen to the song again and write down what I can remember. Still though I find it difficult to remember everything even ten seconds after its over. I guess accumulating experience is really the only way to increase remembrance of the experience.

Also I have gotten some nootropics, and with my latest batch of xtal I plan starting with 15mg and working my way up to the sweet spot since I know my upper limit is around 30mg, I think Ill try to find the lower limit. Finding the lower limit may help with recall?

I did this with an Aphex Twin tune (slowed down 1000%) and it was a particularly deep journey.

Now, anytime I put that tune on the tears kick in within 30 seconds