Has anyone else tried this combo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQKz7r60W4Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering what the nice dosages could be. Any thoughts? The current algorithm would be like that: 1. 3x LSD blotter (130 micrograms each) 2. wait for it to peak 3. snort 100mg DMT fumarate 4. wait for it to peak 5. vape 30mg DMT freebase 6. ... 7. profit Just to mention that one of these blotters didn't do much, trip lasted 8h but visuals were weak (walls only wobbled very slightly) so I guess x3 should do something but I'm worried that maybe when having DMT and LSD combined the dosages should be much smaller than when taking each of these chemicals separately.
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my thoughts are that LSDMT is epic. get it done dosage, loads INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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Hyena wrote:Has anyone else tried this combo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQKz7r60W4Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering what the nice dosages could be. Any thoughts? The current algorithm would be like that: 1. 3x LSD blotter (130 micrograms each) 2. wait for it to peak 3. snort 100mg DMT fumarate 4. wait for it to peak 5. vape 30mg DMT freebase 6. ... 7. profit Just to mention that one of these blotters didn't do much, trip lasted 8h but visuals were weak (walls only wobbled very slightly) so I guess x3 should do something but I'm worried that maybe when having DMT and LSD combined the dosages should be much smaller than when taking each of these chemicals separately. Let me preface by saying that this is my favorite combination of any two things on the planet. When LSD and DMT come together, they make magic. The best words I can find to match my experiences with the combination are heavenly, celestial and angelic. When I do it, I like to vape towards the peak, and then it's also nice to do it as you're coming down. The DMT allows some colorfully magnificent respites from the odd body load of the LSD. Now onto your algorithm. I'm never good with microgram doses of LSD, so I can't really help you there. I'm usually on 2-3 tabs of blotter. I've never snorted DMT, so I also can't help you there, but one might consider that if there is burn, it will be exacerbated by the LSD during the wait for come-up most likely. 30mg DMT is a bit of a hefty dose, but not unreasonable. Remember that since the two will synergize with each other, you might not need as much DMT as usual, but certainly not as little as you'd need when vaping on oral DMT in which both the synergy from the oral DMT as well as the harmalas come together for some super synergistic action that most definitely translates to a lower dose. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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One time whilst on 4 moderately strong doses I tried 50mg base. The dmt completely overpowered the lsd, but at the same time the dmt wasn't as strong as it should have been. Competing for receptor sites. "I am cursed by the blossoming knowledge of my feminine ideal and she looks suspiciously like you."
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -AE
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3rdI wrote:my thoughts are that LSDMT is epic. get it done dosage, loads
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Yes. It was absolutely magnificent. Perhaps my favourite combination so far. I like to allways include THC in the mix as well. I can swear by LSDMTHC; Works greatly synergistic.
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SKA wrote:I can swear by LSDMTHC; Works greatly synergistic. This is clearly the finest combination of letters ever assembled INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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LSDMTHC - letting surrender disassemble mental traumatic holy crap changacid face
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Hyena wrote:Has anyone else tried this combo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQKz7r60W4Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering what the nice dosages could be. Any thoughts? The current algorithm would be like that: 1. 3x LSD blotter (130 micrograms each) 2. wait for it to peak 3. snort 100mg DMT fumarate 4. wait for it to peak 5. vape 30mg DMT freebase 6. ... 7. profit Just to mention that one of these blotters didn't do much, trip lasted 8h but visuals were weak (walls only wobbled very slightly) so I guess x3 should do something but I'm worried that maybe when having DMT and LSD combined the dosages should be much smaller than when taking each of these chemicals separately. Your not going to be smoking any dmt on the peak of 100mg snuffed dmt, especially while in them middle of a solid lsd trip. You'll probably already be breaking through. 100mg snuffed alone is plenty for a long breakthrough for most people it seems Sounds like a good combination though, if you can get the dosages just right
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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TLDR: I experienced one of the possible interpretations of my own death. The scariest part was that I finally accepted the thought that I died. So, this is the trip report for LSDMTHC: 2x 130 ug LSD blotters. 2 hours later was already tripping balls but took 150 ug LSD sugar cube in addition. Watched uncut version of The Holy Mountain (MUST SEE). 3 hours later snorted 50mg DMT fumarate and went outside. Stuff came on very mildly but the clouds were already geometric. 10 minutes later vaped about 10mg DMT freebase. Then shit got crazy. Everything visible to me suddenly got this weird alien look and from time to time I experienced sudden surges of falling into a loop of utter amazement and producing strange gurgling sounds in the process (first time experience of such behaviour). Then I discovered that I can control this alien DMT look and view by concentrating on it to come back. When one of my buddies vaped the same amount I was able to see the same alien world that he saw although I was no longer in that fey world myself. When he looked at his fingers being amazed that there were suddenly 6 or 7 of them I immediately gained access to see the same thing. Then about 10 minutes later we smoked some weed and this changed everything for me. Suddenly I got this DMT look back and it scared me because when my buddies talked to me I heard very different messages than what they said. These messages were hints that I could be dead already and now I have to realize it so that I could exit this world properly. I talked to some consciousness who spoke to me via my buddy and the consciousness told me that it knows what I am experiencing and warned me that I should wait and see as it gets even worse. I was then getting plenty of hints and messages that I should give up and go outside the house because I am dead (probably sunken in a pond) but I resisted to do so. I felt extreme fear and it turned into hopelessness and finally acceptance as I started to just meditate and not even communicate back to these messages that wanted me to go outside. I thought that I will never leave that couch even if I have to pee myself because I was very sure that if I go out I will die for real (in case I was somehow still alive). As I meditated I concentrated on love and saw whiteness. When I concentrated on my special someone I felt utter happiness. The messages I interpreted from my friends' words then told me that it really doesn't matter if you died or not and that you can choose yourself the life experience that you want to experience. I chose to continue my existence in the life I just had without actually dying. As the effects of different chemicals wore off I was no longer getting these hints about me being dead so I could finally go to pee without being scared that I might die. I put on the Robot Unicorn Attack for my friend because he also did some DOC. He started playing and I started to believe that I am still alive. By the way, this is how my friend saw the DMT world:  It is very different from what I experienced but it's similar by the fact that actually seeing things like that is very weird. End comment: The trip I had was the most powerful that I've experienced and at some point it made me wish that I had never taken DMT (edit: or THC in case it was responsible). However, it had its positive and enjoyable sides (the looping gurgling sounds and the feeling of utter amazement). I am pretty sure that THC was responsible for the near-death-experience-thingy so I think I'm not going to become a fan of THC, ever. So far I have only got bad experiences from weed, no matter if taking it alone or in a combination with other drugs.
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mew wrote:LSDMTHC - letting surrender disassemble mental traumatic holy crap LSDMTHC: Lo! Suddenly Dissolving My Traditional Heuristic Constructs
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A small, cartoonish neon house a bit similar to the one in that picture has been at the beginning of a number of my DMT experiences. Entities seem to either assemble it, or run up, down and around it, making discrete pure pitch tones at different points along their sequenced run. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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mew wrote:LSDMTHC - letting surrender disassemble mental traumatic holy crap changacid face I love this.  (the colourful writings that didn't appear) For he who traverses the light is righteous.
The greatest of journeys start with a single step.....most of the time.
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This really is one of the last things I ever hope to do. Has been several years since I last had proper LSD and no sign in sight of that changing. Like this is the only drug related thing I would have left to do, that I want to do, before I die. From what I hear, if you get it right, it is pure multidimensional poetry
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Not really a response to the OP, but something related that I've been thinking about... How "(un)safe" would it be if someone were to smoke changa while on lsd? The harmalas in changa are of the MAOi-a type if that makes any difference... The person I'm referring to usually takes doses of lsd in the 400-600 microgram range... If any adverse effects are to be expected from this combination, what would be the minimum amount of time between both experiences? Perhaps there would be a difference depending on harmala dosage, so let's say that no freebase harmalas would be added to the changa mix, which would still consist of a certain percentage of harmala-containing herbs (passiflora, caapi)... Would this sort of changa, with very little harmalas in it, be safe to smoke while on mdma or other amphetamines? My avatar was taken from google images and is actually a work of art by NEIL GIBSON, credit where credit is due! Bodies don't have souls - souls have bodies Old enough to know better, young enough to try again
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dooby wrote:Not really a response to the OP, but something related that I've been thinking about...
How "(un)safe" would it be if someone were to smoke changa while on lsd? The harmalas in changa are of the MAOi-a type if that makes any difference... The person I'm referring to usually takes doses of lsd in the 400-600 microgram range... If any adverse effects are to be expected from this combination, what would be the minimum amount of time between both experiences? Perhaps there would be a difference depending on harmala dosage, so let's say that no freebase harmalas would be added to the changa mix, which would still consist of a certain percentage of harmala-containing herbs (passiflora, caapi)... Would this sort of changa, with very little harmalas in it, be safe to smoke while on mdma or other amphetamines? Some people like this combo. I have taken LSD and then freebased harmalas followed by freebasing DMT. It's "safe" but just be prepared for a potentially intense ride. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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There is no adverse reaction between lsd and harmalas. But having said that, make sure what you have is really lsd and not some RC that may not be a good idea to take with harmalas. People here have taken ayahuasca/pharma during or at the end of an lsd trip with no problems. Just be careful since if you take them at the same time it will be a lot more intense. I don't really like combining harmalas with lsd that much personally, unless its just some changa or passionflower tea
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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Hyena wrote:Has anyone else tried this combo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQKz7r60W4Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering what the nice dosages could be. Any thoughts? The current algorithm would be like that: 1. 3x LSD blotter (130 micrograms each) 2. wait for it to peak 3. snort 100mg DMT fumarate 4. wait for it to peak 5. vape 30mg DMT freebase 6. ... 7. profit Just to mention that one of these blotters didn't do much, trip lasted 8h but visuals were weak (walls only wobbled very slightly) so I guess x3 should do something but I'm worried that maybe when having DMT and LSD combined the dosages should be much smaller than when taking each of these chemicals separately. in my opinion based on experience blotters allows you to detach your consciousness from your physical world and body very easy chosen spice takes you to other places on the grid of dimension I just know that it was one of the most, deep, THERE, beautiful, powerful, in sync, level I've ever been on. I was the universe... I watched the creation.... meditate on this level and become one... it's truly amazing psilocybin slip n' slidinn infinate love∞♥ discerment of the mind body and soul∴ positive/negative this/that good/bad alive/dead/ more/less duality ±vision½ high vibrations ←open minded skeptisizm¿→ YOU ARE YOUR OWN GOD
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