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sabbathin
#1 Posted : 8/21/2013 12:29:04 AM
Good day. I followed Cyb's Max ion tek, but left the MHRB in acid soak for 2 days (pH 2-3), and basified for around 15-18 hours. I used 50 grams of powdered MHRB, and didnt use excesive heat. 75 mg of N,N-DMT (without re-xtalization) is a embarrasing yield. Any advice? Thank you in advance
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Gone-and-Back
#2 Posted : 8/21/2013 12:44:19 AM
How many pulls did you do on the bark?

Maybe the bark itself is weak bark? Have you extracted from the same batch before this with better results?
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sabbathin
#3 Posted : 8/21/2013 1:09:47 AM
Thank you for the reply. I did 6 pulls. This is the first time i use this bark, this is so sad.

Used a total volume of 1 L, 80 g of NaCl, Basified until a pH of 13 with NaOH, both ragent grade.
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DreaMTripper
#4 Posted : 8/21/2013 5:18:23 AM
Hmm I would say weak bark if youve had success with that tek before, although that pH seems a bit low and for quite long.
I wouldnt be suprised if some sellers actually cut the bark with something.
 
sabbathin
#5 Posted : 8/21/2013 5:45:19 AM
DreaMTripper wrote:
Hmm I would say weak bark if youve had success with that tek before, although that pH seems a bit low and for quite long.
I wouldnt be suprised if some sellers actually cut the bark with something.


Thank you for the reply. Then, I will do it once again letting it soak in acid for less time.
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endlessness
Moderator
#6 Posted : 8/21/2013 10:06:40 AM
How big were the pulls, and did you freeze or evap?
 
Infectedstyle
#7 Posted : 8/21/2013 10:31:43 AM
What solvent are you using? i also have low yields. Slightly more than 75mg but definitely no 1%+. But i am using whole root bark instead of powdered.
 
cyb
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#8 Posted : 8/21/2013 10:43:59 AM
Infectedstyle wrote:
But i am using whole root bark instead of powdered.

Powder it up.
It will take a lot of cell lysing to extract from whole bark...give yourself the best chance possible.
Get out your hammer and blender.

OP, as stated, we need more info before a diagnosis can be made.Smile
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sabbathin
#9 Posted : 8/21/2013 3:13:33 PM
endlessness wrote:
How big were the pulls, and did you freeze or evap?


6 pulls, 50 mL of hot naphta (each one) per 50 g of powdered root bark. First I did evaporate to 40% of naphta volume and then I left it in the freezer at max power for 24 hours. Thank you in advance.
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endlessness
Moderator
#10 Posted : 8/21/2013 3:39:29 PM
how well did you mix the pulls? If you didnt mix them very thoroughly, I'd try to do a couple more very thorough pulls (adding more lye and salt before)

i'd evaporate the naphtha down some more, to maybe 20% of the volume now, and freeze again.

Also I'd add some more lye and salt to the bark mix and do another warm pull and evaporate it down to just a tiny bit and freeze.

If nothing of this yields more, I'd guess its bad bark
 
sabbathin
#11 Posted : 8/21/2013 4:14:57 PM
I mixed the layers by rotating the reactor up and down for around 30 seconds and letting it to settle, then did it again 2 more times (each pull), do I have to SHAKE it? Also, should i add enough lye to get it to 13-14? it's still in 12 I guess.
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endlessness
Moderator
#12 Posted : 8/21/2013 4:26:14 PM
Definitely add lye to get to pH 14.. Dont need to shake but you can turn it upside down a few more times
 
sabbathin
#13 Posted : 8/21/2013 4:29:41 PM
endlessness wrote:
Definitely add lye to get to pH 14.. Dont need to shake but you can turn it upside down a few more times


Thank you very much end, i will buy some more naptha.
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Hupecat
#14 Posted : 8/21/2013 9:59:12 PM
i would say the same.. MORE Lye..!sounds like the dmt was not really converted to its freebase-form, yet, and therefore wasn't captired by the Naphta..??? Just a thought..
 
DreaMTripper
#15 Posted : 8/22/2013 3:07:14 AM
Yeah more lye with salt, change naptha and no shake or rattle just a roll my mate has just got frustrated with his and made an emulsion by shaking vigorously so dont do that..
 
 
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