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Dr Psychonaut
#1 Posted : 7/19/2013 2:26:50 PM
I am shortly going to be trying ayahuasca for the first time after around 100 smoked eperiences but due to some recent hard experiences with the material I am cautious about not going in too deep too fast. I am brewing up some yellow Caapi vine and originally planned to drink just Caapi only first. My question is would it be possible to drink 50-75g Caapi, see how I'm feeling for about an hour then if I feel ready take staggered doses of freebase DMT perhaps 10-20mg per capsule until i reach a point i am happy with? Or would this detract from the experience?
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Whatisreal
#2 Posted : 7/19/2013 5:41:17 PM
Well I can share with you my experiences. While living in a medicine community and taking part in the ayahuasca ceremonies. The way we did it was to drink once at the beggining of the night, drink again an hour-ish later, and a third time a couple hours later. After the first glass the feeling was very gentle, then the second glass really kicks things into gear Thumbs up

Very nice way to do it IMO
 
SHroomtroll
#3 Posted : 7/19/2013 5:47:59 PM
I usually do a stagering strategy when i drink aya or pharma, it looks something like this.


T:0 Drink caapi brew/extracted harmalas.

T:15min Eat first dose dmt (50-100mg)


T:45-60min Drink more caapi/extracted harmalas, usually about 50% of the first dose + second dose dmt (50-100mg) + Sometimes i take a hit of changa after the last dose.


This usually works up a great peak but the comeup is slowed down since i space my doses out a bit.


Try this but maybe with 30mg +30mg or something.

 
ymer
#4 Posted : 7/20/2013 12:14:13 AM
SHroomtroll wrote:
I usually do a stagering strategy when i drink aya or pharma, it looks something like this.


T:0 Drink caapi brew/extracted harmalas.

T:15min Eat first dose dmt (50-100mg)


T:45-60min Drink more caapi/extracted harmalas, usually about 50% of the first dose + second dose dmt (50-100mg) + Sometimes i take a hit of changa after the last dose.


This usually works up a great peak but the comeup is slowed down since i space my doses out a bit.


Try this but maybe with 30mg +30mg or something.




Aren't the DMT doses too high?
 
Jees
#5 Posted : 7/20/2013 7:58:45 AM
ymer wrote:
...Aren't the DMT doses too high?

* sensitivity to dmtee is personal;

* depends on how deep one folded back the maoi gradient, which is function of # harmalas token and again personal sensitivity on this part.
 
SHroomtroll
#6 Posted : 7/20/2013 9:05:07 AM
ymer wrote:
SHroomtroll wrote:
I usually do a stagering strategy when i drink aya or pharma, it looks something like this.


T:0 Drink caapi brew/extracted harmalas.

T:15min Eat first dose dmt (50-100mg)


T:45-60min Drink more caapi/extracted harmalas, usually about 50% of the first dose + second dose dmt (50-100mg) + Sometimes i take a hit of changa after the last dose.


This usually works up a great peak but the comeup is slowed down since i space my doses out a bit.


Try this but maybe with 30mg +30mg or something.




Aren't the DMT doses too high?






Not for me at least, i usually dont get much of anything with under 100mg of oral dmt nowadays, idk its weird cause 50mg used to be quite strong.


Also nowadays i usually aim for a breakthrough experience which i get from +150mg and a alot of maoi.


That is why i said he should try staggering but only 30+30mg one hour spaced, honestly i dont think 30mg is gonna do much for anyone.
 
 
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