In all my limited experience when blasting off I can still hear my head, my inner voice, my consciousness talking. Usually it's stuff like "Ok it's happening, relax, wow this is colourful, we're moving quite fast here, just let go, those are some funky shapes, ooh that feels quite warm and fuzzy, omg have i broken through? Where are the elves? Is this what dying feel likes? Shit something bad is gonna happen, no its not, just go with the flow." Ideally I would love it if my brain just shut up and experience the trip for what it is rather than have my imagination overpower or skew it in some way. I've done some meditation before and I'm thinking perhaps some techniques could be crossed over for guidance. tldr : My brain won't shut up when tripping balls, does meditation work in shushing it? What do you usually think about or is going through your heads?
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Alright, you're really about to do it. Phew.
Don't burn it. Don't burn it.
Ok, show me something I wouldn't normally imagine.
Please be gentle with me.
Man, I wish I'd taken that third hit. Dang it.
Shush, pay attention.
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It's pretty hard to summarize my thoughts when blasting off, sometimes there is fear, sometimes I just wonder if I've gotten enough, sometimes I wonder if I got too much. Sometimes I realize I got just the perfect amount, and a smile overtakes my existence.
I've had trips where the entire trip was centered around the thought of not having thought, and what does that mean, how can one be without thought, is to truly be without thought death?
Plenty of times I have almost no real thoughts other then "holy <#%#^". I usually come back from those laughing hysterically because I cannot even begin to comprehend what I just witnessed.
The closest summation I can express in words from my last breakthrough.
I wonder if I smoked enough... Hmm, ok, one more pull, man... ok, i'll just lay back here.. Wow I'm starting to really feel it, I ... I see god, how can that be? Hmm, god sure looks awfully boxy and silver today. He is vibrating... the world responding to every wave. I wonder why god is a cube. Ahhh, I think I broke something here...Wait a minute, what the hell am I thinking? Oh my, I've finally done it, I've crossed the point of no return. Why am I staring at god, I don't even believe in god. Was I wrong? Am I stuck here, watching god for the rest of my life as punishment for not? Well, I guess this is pretty tranquil.. I'll just sit here and... Man his vibrations are really sharp, so sharp, how is this not hurting me, isn't sharp dangerous? man I can't believe im stuck here for eternity.. man eternity what a long period, its almost infinite...
<Then just a dumbfounded scared feeling in my brain that I don't really know how to describe, other then 'fuzzy', that seemed to last for an incredibly long time> and I slowly faded back into whatever this 'reality' thing we are in is.
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SeekerOfTruths wrote:Hmm, god sure looks awfully boxy and silver today.
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jimmy4fingers wrote:
Ideally I would love it if my brain just shut up and experience the trip for what it is rather than have my imagination overpower or skew it in some way. I've done some meditation before and I'm thinking perhaps some techniques could be crossed over for guidance.
tldr : My brain won't shut up when tripping balls, does meditation work in shushing it? What do you usually think about or is going through your heads?
It's common IME to have the racing thoughts at the onset. If you're getting stuck with those rambling thoughts as a primary feature of your experiences, you're probably either not taking enough or you're not sufficiently efficient at taking your current dose size. Generally the thoughts should quickly give way to more outstanding features. I think your best bet is to simply let your thoughts flow as they may and direct your attention to details within the experience. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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"I have to let go... I have to let go... I'm gonna have to learn to let go... Why can't I let go... I have to let go... damn why is it so hard to let go... I have to ... O wait I'm already here"
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WwwwweEEeeEEee!
Seriously though, usually it's something like this for me:
Hmm, did I get it all? I wonder if I left some in the pipe...
Nope, There is is! Why was I so anxious? I missed this! Relax!
...Did I forget to do XYZ at work? Shit! Don't think about that! Why did I just think about work? That thought was NOT in the flight plan!
Ahhh Ok, Everything is as it should be... My god! The TREES........ <trip/>
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to infinity and beyond.... CHAAAAAAARGE INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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Am I really doing this again?
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Excuse my french but my thought process is usually something like this: "Ok, here we go. You can do this. Inhale, hold it hold it hold it, exhale, one more time, inhale, hold it hold it hold it, uh-oh, here we go. Oh sh*t oh sh*t oh sh*t, why did I do this to myself, this is so much faster than I remember, oh sh*t oh sh*t oh sh*t is this happening to me again? Why on Earth did I think this was a good idea? Oh. That's why." And then I'm gone and out traveling. Once I get past that lift-off, I know everything is going to be okay, but it's usually pretty nerve racking for a few minutes. Take off is always way more intense then I remember it being. "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:Excuse my french but my thought process is usually something like this:
"Ok, here we go. You can do this. Inhale, hold it hold it hold it, exhale, one more time, inhale, hold it hold it hold it, uh-oh, here we go. Oh sh*t oh sh*t oh sh*t, why did I do this to myself, this is so much faster than I remember, oh sh*t oh sh*t oh sh*t is this happening to me again? Why on Earth did I think this was a good idea?
Oh.
That's why."
And then I'm gone and out traveling. Once I get past that lift-off, I know everything is going to be okay, but it's usually pretty nerve racking for a few minutes.
Take off is always way more intense then I remember it being. You described the whole process perfectly
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From what Global and Nathaniel has said here, seems I haven't been loading my rockets with enough gas. I've been blasting off to the stratosphere, seeing the edge of space but not quite out of orbit. Next time I'm gonna land on the moon.
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I honestly try not to think about anything. Sometimes that does not work, I remember on my first real breakthrough on my way out into exponential space I thought, "Why am I doing this?" Because it was SO intense. Not long after though, it killed me in several ways and I woke up without being able to really think about anything except what the entities were trying to show me. They even told me not to talk even though it seemed absolutely impossible, I had no idea of where I was, why I was there or what I was.
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"i am a shaaayyyman, magician. the sun is purple...." i found it best just to ease gently into the waters to start with. once you get acclimated you can dive as deep as you want to go. changa is the way to go, imo music can be beneficial as well My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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For me: Ok. I don't have a scale. Just put a small pile in. Premelt it, there we go. Lay back. Light the pipe.... Smoke is filling, oh shit this is going to be too much! Hold. Nope. Another toke, light.. Why is the pipe multiplying to about 10 pipes in 3d away from me? Oh shit how does this lighter work again? Damn! Just put the pipe down and closer my eyes and enjoy. Oh my that's cool. Wow! Side note (not thoughts): I have not gotten to grips with the "it's ok" now vape! In time I guess. But then it's been maybe a year since last vape. I said I should wait until the time is right and not waste spice on micro dosing. Done: THC - LSD - MESC - MDMA - Shrooms - DMT / Want:Hyperspace travel - World Peace Respect, intention, meditation, inhalation, observation, analyzation, respect.
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Reading your words brings a smile of deja vu to me haha some are quite funny too as i found myself saying a few of them for me: Did i do it right?not quite that strong this time(progress)wow i take that back(and im gone coming back with big woooooow!what was that and a lets do that again soon  ) Everything,Everything,Everything. Nothings wrong,Nothing out of place this is perfect wow thank you. How the Hell  . BZZZZZZZZGRRRRRRRRRRRRBWEEEEHHEEEWEEWBEEEWEEW. Stop thinking about that crap focus now. Ok its starting here we go. The lives of all they occupy their eyes in dismal gloom the all-piercing,dead oculi - mirrors of our doom Oblivious to the trespass as you gaze into the black the demon of surveillance insultingly staring back Into you,they own your every secret, your life is in their files the grains of your every waking second sifted through and scrutinized,they know your every right. They know your every wrong,each put in their due compartment - sins where sins belong
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jimmy4fingers- I've found it helpful to become an observer of my thoughts and try to stop listening to them. The ego will try desperately to hold on to itself. This has been the hardest part for me to concur. The less you have to think about, the easier it is to travel. EGO |||| HYPERSPACE. It's that middle part that's so challenging! Things that help me before a trip: Having my house 100% clean. Having my clothes ready the next morning (I travel at night) Meditating Writing down everything on my mind before traveling. 4 3 2 1 Earth below us drifting falling floating weightless calling calling home... - Peter Schilling
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I try to enter in as deep a brainwave/meditative state as possible, while simply paying attention and maintaining awareness of my awareness...its good to calm/passify the left brain monkey chatter first..So ideally i'm not really thinking any word-thoughts at all, but obviously they can crop up pretty dang often! Although with practice they seem to take the back seat more and more and are easily let go of when they crop up "relax...smile..." its amazing how simply smiling can help at times "I'M NEVER DOING THIS AGAIN" "OH MY GOD WHY DON'T I DO THIS MOAR OFTEN?!?!" ^ also quite common to have those any kind of ritualized mantra/vocalization is also a great thing to have handy..it doesn't even have to be words, and doesn't have to be said aloud
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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