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Chacruna vs Chaliponga Options
 
Gone-and-Back
#1 Posted : 1/15/2013 8:41:15 PM
Which one is more potent and better to use for an Aya brew using Syrian Rue
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jamie
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#2 Posted : 1/15/2013 8:53:24 PM
they are two entirley different things. Chaliponga is a just very different from more pure DMT sources.

Chaliponga is more potent and presents a more difficult experience than other DMT sources I have worked with.
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Gone-and-Back
#3 Posted : 1/15/2013 8:57:31 PM
For a first time brew and experience, Chacruna would be more advisable then?
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#4 Posted : 1/15/2013 9:05:12 PM
I prefer chacruna for various reasons but have troubles with the inconsistency of dried mail ordered chacruna. Chaliponga tended to be more consistent in potency but is a different experience for me.
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Gone-and-Back
#5 Posted : 1/15/2013 9:06:41 PM
What exactly is so different about the experiences that the two bring about?
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nickynack338
#6 Posted : 1/21/2013 6:01:25 AM
In my experience, Chaliponga has a dark (but not sinister) and mysterious side. Chali will mess with you a little but rewards you well. I have only had one experience with chacruna and it was more a maternal and streamlined experience all around. The purge from chali is rough to get through IME but oh man is it worth it in the end.
 
Jees
#7 Posted : 1/21/2013 11:56:38 AM
Much appreciated information.
 
Gone-and-Back
#8 Posted : 1/21/2013 5:25:13 PM
So it sounds like I shall have to go with the Chacruna for the easier ride. Out of curiosity, is the smoked experience different when using spice from these two plants? Or is there only a noticable difference when consuming it for Aya
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Jees
#9 Posted : 1/21/2013 9:07:13 PM
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#10 Posted : 1/21/2013 9:30:24 PM
Gone-and-Back wrote:
is the smoked experience different when using spice from these two plants? Or is there only a noticable difference when consuming it for Aya

it MIGHT be possible if you do a full-spectrum extract, but generally these things are reported only with aya (though tbh idk for sure as i have only extracted mimosa)
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Gone-and-Back
#11 Posted : 1/21/2013 10:35:45 PM
I have a friend who was going to do an extraction soon on I think Chali, whenever he finds the time to do it. I can urge him to do a full spectrum extract on a small portion of it, and do the same with some Chacruna if there is still some lying around here... We can then see how the two compare when smoked.
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Mr.Peabody
#12 Posted : 1/22/2013 12:02:06 AM
I think this nice thread is pertinent right about now!

I have had one chacruna brew, but it was pretty weak. Is there any credibility to the rumors that hawaiian chacruna is stronger? I have 50 grams of that, and another 50 grams of chaliponga. The brew I have made up (from my first try) is peruvian chacruna.

Is chaliponga any more of a mindfuck than, say, a good dose of mushroom shenanigans? I have a lot of experience with that brand of craziness.

This thread has actually got me excited for some chaliponga brew. I think I'm feeling a strange trip in my near future.
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Jees
#13 Posted : 1/22/2013 2:49:29 PM
One has to sign in, but this thread @ TheNook is great for distinguishing viridis - alba/carthagenesis.
In post #13 of that thread is a nice set of comparison pictures.
 
 
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