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nicechrisman
#1 Posted : 11/5/2012 4:32:08 PM
I'm planning my annual mushroom picking trip to the coast and am thinking about taking some PT tar while down there. Just curious if anyone has tried this combo and what it was like. I'm kinda thinking the tar early in the day (or maybe the previous night) then mushrooms at night. I'll be staying in a yurt down on the coast.

Anyone tried this combo?
Nagdeo
 
ipumaestro
#2 Posted : 11/11/2012 6:50:04 AM
i prefer higher amounts of cacti and small amounts of mushrooms.

i find that the cacti leave me balanced whereas the mushrooms add... well it. and i am not nearly as trusting of mushrooms as i am of cacti. also the weird body load is not desireable for me.


ill be trying this out again anyway, gettin that magic ratio down.

please help!
achuma puma
 
nicechrisman
#3 Posted : 11/11/2012 2:24:05 PM
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping someone would be able to share an experience with me. Not sure if I want to take the mushrooms after the mescaline peak, or if I want to take them well after when I'm just in mescaline afterglow. Thinking mescaline first thing in the morning (I know, opinions differ on this), then a hearty dose of mushrooms once it gets dark (dark is important to me with mushrooms).

I'm really excited! Leaving tonite after work. Going down to the coast for 4 days.
Nagdeo
 
dreamer042
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#4 Posted : 11/11/2012 2:41:53 PM
Whenever I take cactus after about say 14 hours or so the psychedelic effects wear down and I've still got another several hours of uncomfortable stimulation to deal with. It's at this point I like to eat a moderate dose of mushrooms, timed like that, as the mushrooms are ramping down, so is the cactus, and I'm ready for a well earned deep restful sleep. Smile
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nicechrisman
#5 Posted : 11/11/2012 3:16:10 PM
Sounds like my timing should work out pretty perfect then. I'm still not sure if I like cactus better in the day or night, but I think with taking the mushrooms in the evening, it will work best to take the cactus in the early morning.

I've also got plenty of ganja and ganja edibles if I need a cushion to fall on. I am a very regular cannabis smoker. Unlike some other psychonauts, I almost always find that cannabis brings me toward my "comfort happy place".
Nagdeo
 
nicechrisman
#6 Posted : 11/11/2012 4:15:20 PM
I'll be back with a trip report in a few days
Nagdeo
 
ipumaestro
#7 Posted : 11/11/2012 8:54:36 PM
good idea dreamer.

i may go with after the peak hits, eat the mushrooms (t+5 hrs) then just smoke a lot of ganja till passing out Smile

im curious to see them working together during their stronger effects
achuma puma
 
VoidTraveler
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#8 Posted : 11/11/2012 11:45:23 PM
dreamer042 wrote:
Whenever I take cactus after about say 14 hours or so the psychedelic effects wear down and I've still got another several hours of uncomfortable stimulation to deal with. It's at this point I like to eat a moderate dose of mushrooms, timed like that, as the mushrooms are ramping down, so is the cactus, and I'm ready for a well earned deep restful sleep. Smile


Now there's a good idea. I'll be trying my first time of cactus very soon and I'll make sure I have some mushrooms laying around in case I want to give this a shot.
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marz
#9 Posted : 11/13/2012 11:19:30 PM
Sounds like fun Ummmm..Confused Indeed I want Drool
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nicechrisman
#10 Posted : 11/16/2012 11:35:13 AM
well, I had a great time, but didn't find the combo to be my favorite. Reminded me of the time I mixed MDMA and shrooms. My jaw felt like lockjaw and I had a hard time getting it open to eat. In the future, I think I will prefer to take them by themselves. It wasn't bad, but I think my mind was confused enough that I don't really remember visuals and stuff. It was still great and I'm glad I did it, but next time I'll just give them both their own space.

I took the mescaline in the morning. Well took it throughout the day really. I have a hard time ingesting cacti, so I really spaced out my dose, which was a large one. I took the mushrooms at dark and was still going pretty hard from the cactus.

I also had the following happen-


I've heard several peoples' accounts of paralysis as a result of eating azurescens mushrooms. I always kinda shrugged it off as no big deal, they were just tripping harder than they were used to or whatever.

Well, I'm here to tell you, it is NO JOKE. I went picking at the coast and ate a lot (about 15 or 20 decent size) throughout the night after taking a strong dose of mescaline during the day. Had a challenging, but good trip. Went to sleep late. Woke up in the morning and my vision was blurry, but I didn't think much of it. Picked up my little mushroom picking shoulder bag and walked to the bathroom to go poop and figured I might pick more mushrooms when I got out of the bathroom.

So I'm coming out of the bathroom and start to walk away from it, and just collapsed. Didn't think too much of it, and tried to get up and didn't have the ability to get on my feet. It was like gravity was turned up to 3 times it's normal strength. My mind was perfectly clear though, not all shroomed out feeling. After giving up on standing up, I decided to roll myself across the wet blacktop in hopes of getting to cover so a ranger wouldn't roll up on me. I managed to at least get to the side of the road. Still couldn't get up. There was a power box close enough to me that as a saw either a ranger or park staff vehicle coming around the campground, that I was able to pull myself up to my feet. Mind you I'm soaking wet from writhing around on the road, so I managed to get to my feet and booked it for the bathroom (only about 15 feet away). Made it to the stall and just sat there on the toilet for a few. Then went back to my yurt.

Back at the yurt, I ate some food and had some green tea. My hands and mouth were still partly paralyzed so hooking up my stove and eating and drinking were both chores, but I managed. Overall, it lasted about an hour or so, even minor effects a bit longer.

It was one of the most helpless feelings in my life. I'm SO glad I was able to get myself up before the park staff found me! I had a bunch of mushrooms in my yurt as well as tons of weed. I wonder if fasting and the mescaline played a part, but then I've heard of others having this some problem not combining with other things. Crazy shit!
Nagdeo
 
ipumaestro
#11 Posted : 11/16/2012 11:35:34 PM
what was your dosage/ form of mescaline.
did you fast/ when did you break it
when was your dosing shrooms compared to mesc


thank you for the input. i felt much the same way with cubes n cacti
achuma puma
 
nicechrisman
#12 Posted : 11/17/2012 7:28:24 AM
I used a tar extracted with water from P torch chips. I made up 100 grams of chips into tar. I ate about 75-80% of them over the course of a few hours. It's hard to say what time period cuz the time dialation and stuff. I started eating them (the tar balls I mean) around sunrise. I went and walked about and enjoyed the vibrant greens of nature and the birds chirping cheerully in the trees. I didn't take the mushrooms till nighfall. I then took more. Then some more...

I did fast a bit. My last meal was about 3pm the previous day. I didn't break fast till I was going to eat the mushrooms, and ate an apple. I also munched on some cacao nibs off and on.

I took my largest dose of both cactus and azurescens that night. Usually I eat about 6-12 of them. I took 15-20 this night.
Nagdeo
 
nicechrisman
#13 Posted : 11/17/2012 4:59:02 PM
I now have an experience report here https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=38659 if anyone is interested
Nagdeo
 
ipumaestro
#14 Posted : 11/19/2012 9:25:16 PM
i was not allowed to view it for some reason
achuma puma
 
nicechrisman
#15 Posted : 11/19/2012 11:32:55 PM
should be fixed now. I originally posted it both in the cacti experience and mushroom experience subforums, but one of the mods removed the cacti subforum one and just left the mushroom one. God forbid we have TOO much traffic here...
Nagdeo
 
damon
#16 Posted : 11/20/2012 4:54:44 PM
I like a smaller cactus dose with a moderate cube dose around 8 hours later. The only thing I could suggest is to make sure you eat. It's easy to forget, since there isn't much appetite, and most people fast before, so your body can go weak without much warning. Cactus can be strange, sometimes I want to eat like a horse, sometimes I'm a little queasy and not hungry at all. Smoking some cannabis helps though, but with mushrooms it can be really difficult eating anything. I'll chew and chew but never swallow, next thing you know I'm wondering what it is floating around in my mouth.
 
 
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