I assume some of you may have seen this. It is so sad that this boy had to die like this. The news, as usual, is completely ridiculous. They claim he was on LSD with no toxicology report of course, the only crime he committed was indecent exposure and possible public intoxication.  http://news.yahoo.com/police-student-took-lsd-campus-shooting-172158429.html'Little spider weaves a wispy web, stumblin' through the woods it catches to my head. She crawls behind my ear and whispers secrets. Dragonfly whiz by and sings now teach it.'
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When i came across this, i couldn't understand how lethal force was justified against a naked unarmed person. Psychotic from taking lsd or not. That's why they have tasers, pepper spray, batons, etc. Being on LSD is not an excuse to shoot a visibly unarmed person, aggressive or not. That officer should be in a jail cell. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
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Agreed, instead they are trying to find the person that sold him the LSD in question and pin them with murder. Horrendous. 'Little spider weaves a wispy web, stumblin' through the woods it catches to my head. She crawls behind my ear and whispers secrets. Dragonfly whiz by and sings now teach it.'
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Investigators are trying to determine who provided Collar with LSD and could charge that person in Collar's death
lets see, who shot the naked unarmed child?... blame that guy
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dude was 135 lbs MOST PEOPLE can bench press that.. he was no threat...
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it goes to show you, you cant just go up to cops seeking help and expect to not be shot
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Investigators are trying to determine who provided Collar with LSD and could charge that person in Collar's death
rly?... RLY?
america sucks, i need a cup of tea
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There is no compelling evidence that this was LSD.
The news would do its audience a better justice if they tried to be accurate.
Maybe "One of Collar's associates reported that he had taken a paper tab of LSD while at the event"
Or whatever the ACTUAL basis for assuming he was on LSD is.
(Why isn't accurate information about these chemicals considered relevant...?)
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F*ck the USA* and it's warped justice system. stuff like this sickens me... (*sidenote; the people are fine) Gun it to 88.....::those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak::..ॐ<3ॐ
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The picture i get from reading the article is that the guy came back from a concert butt naked and claiming to be on a spiritual quest. Sounds like LSD to me, granted it might be some other chemical that put him in this state of mind.
This is hardly a story about LSD tho. It's more about a cop who had to make a snap-shot decision when a to his perception drug-crazed student came at him with rapid speed, possibly holding a knife or something else that could kill him on the spot.
It does goes to show you that in cases like this, everyone (except us) has an easier time if we could just blame the drug for this mess. Lucky for everyone, the american government can charge the drug with murder and everyone can get some decent sleep. Except ofcourse the now dead boy's loved ones and family. Which is tragic. What makes this a sad story.. but ultimately stuff like this happens every day. Hardly anything to do with LSD but an interesting newspaper headline...
Excuse the cynical >_>
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^ it cleary stated he was NOT armed..so I dunno what the whole speculation of him possibly going at the cop with a knife is about? Cop with a gun vs a naked unarmed kid tripping out? Hmmm..... If a cop cannot make the decision quick enough to that maybe it's not the best idea to shoot some unarmed naked kid just cus hes acting crazy than they make a shitty cop and should be fired. They fucked up..bigtime. There should be no second chances IMO when it comes to something like that. Not everyone is cut out for that work IMO..and if you cant handle making the right decision that quick than you should not be in that position in the first place. I have actaully seen this situation before where a guy was out of his mind on god knows what kind of psychedelics, on the beach attacking naked people(a nude beach) and then he actaully attacked the RCMP as well. I was tripping out and sitting there in awe of the whole thing and how insane this guy was but the police never shot him to death. They threw him on the ground and then tazered him(dont ask me why, they already had him detained).. Everyone should remember, cops more often than not stick up for other cops. I doubt the cop that shot this kid will end up having to answer to anyone. Long live the unwoke.
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WOW that's messed up. Quote:Had the officer had a Taser or some other less lethal instrument does this OFFICER not have fists. Any officer that does leave himself options and only carries lethal force on them shouldn't be an officer simply put. What if he was called to break up a campus fight would he shoot them too because he had no other instruments at his disposal. The worst part is most of us know that he was most likely having a bad trip and freaked out of his mind and really just wanted help. It's a sad day when innocent kids get shot to death by grown men who should know better.
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stalepixel wrote:Investigators are trying to determine who provided Collar with LSD and could charge that person in Collar's death
rly?... RLY?
america sucks, i need a cup of tea Yea we have this logic here in Canada as well stupid if you ask me. all you did was supply the substance you didn't shove it down someones throat. I say if they can do that to us why can't we hold the government responsible for all the alcohol related deaths, crashes and illnesses. Seems no different to me they supply the substance right?
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If Albert Hoffmann was still alive they would probably want to charge him too, freakin' idiots!!
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I like to remind people here that from ALL (yes, that is 100%) of the media news stories where entheogens are involved NONE of them even came close to the real story and what really happened. Just look at the wrong information about our beloved substances that could be fixed by just one Google search away. This shows that most news media choose to make provocative stories and that we should be aware of that. I see people here who have a strong opinion about this 'news' story but I would ask everyone to be careful with basing their opinion on a story that is likely not 100% true, put out of context and probably exaggerated. What we can do is work on harm reduction and where possible post transparent, well written comments on those media stories where we give our opinion based on facts. Kind regards, The Traveler
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The Traveler wrote:I like to remind people here that from ALL (yes, that is 100%) of the media news stories where entheogens are involved NONE of them even came close to the real story and what really happened.
Just look at the wrong information about our beloved substances that could be fixed by just one Google search away. This shows that most news media choose to make provocative stories and that we should be aware of that.
I see people here who have a strong opinion about this 'news' story but I would ask everyone to be careful with basing their opinion on a story that is likely not 100% true, put out of context and probably exaggerated.
What we can do is work on harm reduction and where possible post transparent, well written comments on those media stories where we give our opinion based on facts.
Kind regards,
The Traveler Well said. A very controlled and corrupt media has been directing the attention of the masses by uniformly reporting on a state of managed chaos, which is scripted and staged to produce a state of mental confusion and fatigue. You are Lazarus in the Tomb, and we are always knocking for you to come out. Soon, the tomb will be torn down around you, and you must come out. What will you do then?
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I sometimes gets nekkid when I'm on acid. Woohoo, I'm nekkid!!! At parties, friends house, forest or festival...uptight people may be scared of the human body, even when they are tripping too, but they don't shoot me with guns. Nekkid!!! "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
I appreciate your perspective.
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LSD has been in use since 1943 and there have been how many cases of people going nuts and ending up dead? Not that many that I've heard of, and the ones I have all seem to be some sort of conspiracy. I highly doubt he was actually on LSD. The first thing that came to my mind was that this has nothing to do with drugs. This may be bordering conspiracy theory but if you have seen the news in America lately you might feel me. There is something funky going on here, first it was the Aurora shooting, then it was the Sikh temple shooting, then it was the Texas A&M shooting, then it was the Empire State Building shooting....I'm sure I am forgetting some but these are the most notable all right in a row. I can't help but draw connections it is getting out of hand. 'Little spider weaves a wispy web, stumblin' through the woods it catches to my head. She crawls behind my ear and whispers secrets. Dragonfly whiz by and sings now teach it.'
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archaic_architect wrote:LSD has been in use since 1943 and there have been how many cases of people going nuts and ending up dead? Not that many that I've heard of, and the ones I have all seem to be some sort of conspiracy. I highly doubt he was actually on LSD.
The first thing that came to my mind was that this has nothing to do with drugs. This may be bordering conspiracy theory but if you have seen the news in America lately you might feel me. There is something funky going on here, first it was the Aurora shooting, then it was the Sikh temple shooting, then it was the Texas A&M shooting, then it was the Empire State Building shooting....I'm sure I am forgetting some but these are the most notable all right in a row. I can't help but draw connections it is getting out of hand. I've had inexperienced friends go out of their minds on LSD (not in a cool way, in a violent "I'm in hell and if I don't kill/fuck someone I'll be stuck here forever" sort of way, and only off of two or three tabs), and if others hadn't been there to keep the situation under control it's very likely things would have gotten violent. I can assure you that the tabs that were taken were in fact LSD as I had tried them myself. I'm not saying that this kid was on LSD, but to say that it's out of the question seems a bit... I dunno biased I guess. Acid is some powerful stuff. That being said, it's ridiculous that the fact that this kid took LSD was such a big factor in these articles. This is about murder, not drugs. I'm sick of cops shooting people just because they're too dumb to figure out how else to handle a situation.
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the media always want to find a culprit other than just the guy who did what he did, like in the 'dark knight rises shooting'. They immediately begin about violence in movies and gun-ownership instead of just checking the actual facts of what exactly happened. It´s just intellectual lazyness. You don´t even need to go out and actual talk to witnesses.
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