Does anyone here have experience with mimosa grown in the American Midwest? We are in southern IL and it grows everywhere... Have several on our property that we planted from seed. I've sampled spice that was supposedly extracted from local trees but I've been unable to get a solid confirmation on that (it was impressive stuff).

I guess my question is, would mimosa grown this far north have a weaker alkaloid content? Would it be worth the effort, or should I just cut to the chase and order Brazilian or Mexican?

i would at least run a test extraction to see if you get a nice sizeable yield.

I agree. If you can spare the dollars, it would be a great and worthy experiment, especially if you have (sounds like you do) experience with MHRB from Brazil or Mexico to compare yields. It's hard to imagine the quality would be equal or even comparable, but definitely worth a shot given the legal issues a lot of suppliers have been having lately...

Let us know if you do!!!

I highly doubt you have m. hostilis growing in illinois. Mainly because its too cold.

Here in Florida we have like 10 kinds of mimosa, none are hostilis.

just my two cents.

Can you ID it from the flower?

Hey neighbor do you have any pictures of it? Are you sure it isn't Illinois bundle-weed? Those plants are rumored to have very high percentages of DMT in them.

should be able to distinguish mimosa hostilis with its white rod flowers(interesting because most of the active acacia species over here in aus have white rod flowers too) and reddish coloured stem/thorns.. fairly wide bipinnate phyllodes.

really hope to hear from people extracting from trees that grow in their area.. would be a great help to get the info up here on the nexus of yields from various desmanthus and mimosa species. then more and more people will rely less on mimosa hostilis import... a very important and quite urgent issue here at the nexus regarding the future of dmt extraction. plus its deeper i reckon extracting dmt from a plant that you've met and spent time with and poured your energy into.
It would be great to hear of people extracting from other areas of the tree too. i know in acacia the dmt occurs in the root, trunk, stem and phyllode.. it wouldnt surprise me if theres dmt lurking elsewhere in mimosa or desmanthus. stem bark is generally the purest area of the acacia for dmt and is similar yield percentages to trunk

theres a pretty good chance i reckon that theres a dmt containing plant teacher for most areas

why do you say that? the quality of the dmt should still be awesome! if it has dmt and in fairly useable yields (0.3% or more) thats all that should matter. dmt is dmt and plants that have grown without the aid of humans will give you just as nice product if you extract to the best of your ability and in the right season/weather conditions.. the yield may be a little different, but shouldnt be too extreme in difference...the main factors in alkaloid variation are to do with the season and weather.. eg what time of day the plant was harvested in, did it rain beforehand ..was it in flowering? (in australia for example acacias are far decreased in yield to sometimes completely devoid of alkaloids after heavy rain or during flower) ...i would suspect these factors to effect mimosa too

M. hostilis does not occur "naturally" anywhere in North America, north of Mexico.

It would be great to find out what kind of Mimosa the extracts you referenced came from, Guy. Do you have any more info on the tree? Flower pics would be a good start...but any info you could provide might go a long way.

I was at party this weekend and I was describing how this plants leaves can move when touched, and the guy I was talking to instantly said "are u talking about those mimosa's". He then described to me how at night they close their leaves and when they get wet too.

He went on to say that they are everywhere where we live (Texas). In fact they are considered to be a nuisance plant. I'm new to the region so I had no idea. I hope he's talking about m.hostillis. If I find out it is, I'm most definetly going to try and harvest some bark and give it a go.

..this is mimosa pudica or sensitive mimosa..and i think it has no dmt in its phytoprofile.

+1

Here's a link to a picture of the tree in our front yard. It's an artsy closeup but should give you an idea of some of the detailed features:

http://www.reflectedart....ents%20of%20epiphany.jpg

As far as the locally extracted info goes, it was a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend situation. I'll try to get better info.

These trees are not native here but they grow prolifically and are considered a pest. The flowers are a light pink color.

Link doesnt show a tree for me.
Sounds like Albizia julibrissin, when most people say 'Mimosa' thats what they mean.
Flowers and stembark used for insomnia, a few edible uses, no DMT.

+1 (again)

M. hostilis has white flowers.

The A. julibrissin bark is supposed to give a very nice mood lift and I know a number of local herbalists who use it in tinctures.