I don't usually write my experiences but I feel this one need to be shared with everyone in the world. Even though I consider myself as pretty solid and strong-minded, what happened last night completely obliterated my whole world.

I prepared 20mg harmalas freebase (double manske Syrian rue extract) and several doses of DMT: 5, 10, 15, 15, 20, 20 mg (total 85mg).

Being very sensitive to both harmalas and DMT, this was meant to be more then enough to spend 2-3 hours far away with some breakthroughs and was already done multiple times in the past. I was fasting the all day, and feeling good, no health issues no mental issues, everything was just as it should be.

Part I: Routine

T 00h00 : 20mg harmalas smoked over 10-15 minutes.
Body effects are felt like usual, moderate harmala presence, I was supposed to be ready for DMT part.

T 00h20 : 5mg DMT
I felt the slight nausea building up as always when I smoke DMT after harmalas, nothing unusual except I didn't felt much of DMT effects, just slight OEVs. So I decided to continue immediately.

T 00h25 : 10mg DMT
Same as before, felt slightly stronger, but no where near what it was supposed to feel like, I began to wonder if there was something wrong somewhere as I usually feel 10mg lot more even without harmalas...

T 00h30 : 15mg DMT
From here on, it was pure madness. Vaporizing the DMT, I couldn't see the vapor going through the GVG no matter how hard I tried. Light was on but it seemed as the DMT was just disappearing in the GVG.

T 00h45 : 15mg DMT
T 01h00 : 20mg DMT
T 01h15 : 20mg DMT
I was in deep meditative space with lot of OEVs not much CEVs, at least not DMT induced but I didn't realize it at the moment. I was searching for the familiar chrysanthemum mandala, or at least a part of it with no success at all. It was astonishing how it was all very different from my previous experiences. It was very mental, I was thinking about the world and the reality itself and was getting an impression that something was to be revealed, or I'm to find something but needed more "fuel".

Part II: Chaos

T 02h00 : I put 35mg DMT in the GVG and started inhalation hoping this time I'll be propulsed into hyperspace. I still couldn't see any vapor at all, so I got up and get to bathroom where the light was very powerful. Even there I couldn't see no vapor. Looking into mirror, I saw me completely deformed and wobbling but could operate normally, at least I had that impression. I wasn't afraid or alarmed in anyway, but what I was going through was not normal at all. It was like the DMT was just going into some kind of black hole in the GVG and never in my lungs. Weird.

T 02h00 : I decided to put more harmalas because I thought that I didn't take enough to activate the DMT, so 45mg more harmalas in the GVG. Now in bathroom at least I saw some vapor while exhaling, finally! The harmalas were not disappearing, yeah!

T 02h30 : Okay so now I think I'm harmaled enough and I was still looking for DMT effects, and completely ignored the fact that harmalas took over my spirit completely. 55mg of DMT in the GVG produced no vapor at all but I felt some effects though, now I know it was harmala only. I had the impression that harmalas were destroying the DMT, completely inhibiting it and rendering it impotent.

T 03h00 : More harmalas is put in the GVG, I don't know really how much because everything was melting around me. Probably around 60-80mg more...

Part III: Armageddon

T 03h30 : I realized that the world is coming to an end, at this very moment. The reality was collapsing on itself. There were no signs of it prior to this very moment, and it was not at all as I imagined it like some kind of world destruction with explosions and all kind of physical effects like in Hollywood movies. I realized that I was the Source and realized the immense loneliness of it, that's why the whole world was created, to be entertained in some way, to experience the multiplicity even though it doesn't really exist. Multiple Déjà vus chaining after/through each other, it was mind shattering.
I was starting to feel afraid, I wasn't in some remote strange place inhabited with elves, I was in my everyday environment realizing it was empty of all substance. With last forces I had I put away the GVG in its box with DMT and harmalas which was on the table at the moment, but each time I came in living room, it was there again so I had to put it away again and again. I kept talking to myself that it will all pass eventually but it kept getting stronger and stronger over time. I became restless and cold sweating moving around with no aim. Harmalas overdose, I knew it but knowing it had no effect on my mind which was completely shattered. Trying to drink water, it all just felt as a mind projection, there is no water, and there is no body to hydrate, no place to hide, no where to escape, I was doomed. I had the impression that my brain was damaged and that the world will never be the same again. I have no words to explain how insignificant the whole world became, empty and pure projection of my own mind. We all are emanating from the same source, I already had feeling that it was the case even before taking any drug, but seeing it, feeling the loneliness of the source is a whole other thing entirely.

T 04h00 :
After 30 minutes of complete disorientation, I was slowly regaining my mental capacities over time, very very slowly. Cold sweating continued for 2 more hours and I couldn't sleep until T 08h00. It was really hellish experience.

T 16h00 : I'm writing this here to share with you my virtual fellows, I'm still pretty shaken and don't know what to think of it all. I know it will all end one day, the life is short, I just hope that after death there is something else, something "real", not only loneliness and emptiness.

I know for sure that I will never again take such amount of harmalas and I'm truly happy to exist and to be back into my everyday reality. On the other hand, it still feel kind of empty but I chose to ignore it... for the moment

Any ideas on why the harmalas was killing the DMT even though it should be the other way? Already happened to anyone?

FYI, my GVG after the experience, you can judge by yourself the amount of stuff that passed through last night.

Based on your reporting that you saw very little vapor passing through your GVG, and then looking at that photo, it seems like most of your doses condensed on the glass before ever reaching your lungs. Very little DMT passed through.

DMT vapor seems to condense much more readily on a surface coated with DMT than on a clean surface. This is why it’s important to keep your GVG very clean.

Anyhow, it’s good that you made it through a difficult experience without any lasting negative consequences.

Clean that GVG!

What kind of screens/gauzes do you use?

I always wonder at people who keep such a neat record of exact times when things are smoked. My sense of time is completely whacked on DMT, even looking at a clock would just confuse me.

And that does look like a cubic buttload of DMT that ran away from you.

Ah, well, happens to the best of us.

I use 7 screens, DMT never passed through before, but harmalas always condensate a bit. Even though the GVG was pretty clean when I started the experience, maybe that was the case, it explains a lot and seems logical. In fact, maybe GVG should be cleaned after harmalas as they always leak through screens. I'll try that when I'm ready.
For the moment, I still think the world may be the projection of my mind, I'm putting pieces of my mind together. If I inhale more harmalas, I really fear to go insane so maybe later

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and tell you that all your spice was melting through the screen without vaporizing at all and pooling in the bend of your pipe.

Try Gibran's copper scrubber method and a stronger torch lighter, and I guarantee a different result.

DMT is not leaking IMO, but it does condensate over leaked/condensated harmalas, at least this is what I think. It makes sense right?
I have no problems with leakage when using DMT alone, also Ark torch lighter doesn't allow any leakage, vaporization is almost instantaneous. Harmalas on the other hand is different story, definitely need more heat. I will try to clean GVG after harmalas next time and see how it goes.
Thank you for your input

That's exactly what's happening. If your spice had recrystallized inside the pipe, it would be evenly distributed throughout and look like pretty snowflake formations, not the glob of mud in your photo. That is why you saw no vapor. It wasn't the caapi spirits swallowing the energy of your DMT. It was bad technique. That's all.

^^^ This.

DMT recrystallized from condensation looks like this:

Of course, the good news is that you can rinse your pipe with warm acetone, evaporate and voila... there's your lost spice.

Thanks guys, that was really helpful.
I still think the DMT condensated on leaked harmalas and together formed the orange goo as really I never had any problems with DMT only, but one can never be sure.

One thing I am sure though, is that I had a really bad trip on harmalas and will be careful next time

Maybe copper scrubber mesh screen would work better. That is also wasted harmalas there. I have never seen the curve so "dirty". I also wonder how you manage not to have leakage of DMT through your screens.
When you loaded 35mg and had only mild effects I believe is a proof you are having technique issues. For me, I can breakthrough with 19-22mg in single inhalation.



When you have such thick layer of condensation or leakage from harmalas it's no wonder you are wasting it.

Be careful with the harmalas!

I agree with the above statements. You will have to improve your technique. Definitely try copper or steel mesh.

Now from my experience - what I do is I smoke harmalas in separate wooden pipe between mullein layers. I need only about 10 - 15mg. It works great. Then I use my GVG with copper mesh and torch lighter only for dmt.

I guarantee to you if you use this setup you will not need that much dmt and it will work great and you will definitely see the smoke.

Improve your smoking technique and hardware set up that is my advice