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JuremaSpaceship
#1 Posted : 2/22/2012 1:25:22 AM
Hello everyone,

7 days ago I celebrated my 24th birthday. I had a great day all together, work went well many people wished me a happy birthday and I went out to dinner with a group of friends that night. Dinner was great, we all had fun and had a few drinks with our meals. I probably had 4 or 5 beers with my dinner and a few of us had a couple shots for dessert Smile
I had 2 shots of Jaegermeister. I wasnt totally drunk,but I had a pretty good buzz by the time we were leaving.

We got back to my house and I think I had one more beer, and many bong hits of really nice weed.
Then 2 of my friends went to bed leaving just me and one other friend in the living room watching tv.
Then I remembered that it had been over a week since my last journey into hyperspace.

I thought about it for about 1 min before I got up and walked to my room to pack up the ol' vapor genie.
I came back out into the living room with pipe in hand and sat on the couch across the room from my good friend. The tv in the living room was on but the volume was down really low. We were listening to music just kinda hanging out. My friend was well aware of what I was about to do but he didnt really pay attention to me he just sat there watching tv.

There are only 2 other times that I can remember smoking dmt while under the influence of alcohol (just a couple beers) both of those times went well and I started thinking that maybe a small amount of alcohol before blasting off might be a good way to loosen up and help with pre flight anxiety.

So I sat there on the couch and got myself ready, I put the pipe to my mouth and took a very long slow hit. I could feel the vapor building In my lungs and I knew it was gonna be a good one. I held the hit in, placed my pipe on the coffee table, and sat back into the couch. I was immediately carried away into hyperspace.

About 20 seconds into the experience it was very clear that this was not such a great feeling, and as seconds went by it got more and more intense and overwhelming. It got to the point where i was very uncomfortable and I was almost in a panic, the only thing I can remember is sitting up real fast and opening my eyes to somehow try to snap out of this frightening place. When I opened my eyes it got even worse because the living room I was expecting to see wasn't there, it was just this very bright orange place full of strange frightening moving patterns, no matter what I tried to do it was just too intense and uncomfortable.
Then I tried telling myself just relax and go with it, I tried to "just let go" like I always do, but this time it was different. No matter how much I tried to go with it it was too intense and I tried to fight it.and I wasn't winning...

I can barely remember anything from the whole experience other than I was very uncomfortable the whole time. I completely lost track of time and it seemed like it was lasting wayyyy too long and I started to really worry that something was wrong and this should be over by now. I sat there quietly the whole time (says my friend) but it was terrifying. I kept thinking that my friends were standing around me seeing if I was ok(but they weren't) I thought I was really dying,but I kept trying to tell myself I wasn't.

When I finally felt it starting to fade off I started feeling better, a few more minutes passed and I could see clearly again and I calmly told my friend that "I wanted that to end for a long time" but I told him I would be fine. 10 mins later I was back to normal but still just a little shook up.

I think it was a combination of a few things that gave me the negative experience...

Alcohol, I probably won't smoke dmt after drinking ever again.
Setting, it was the first time I smoked in my living room sitting on the couch. I usually lay in my bed.
It was also the first time I had somebody else present while I blasted off.
Dosage, I really need to invest in a good scale so I know how much I'm actually using each time. I always aim for 40-50mg.

Also, there was weed in my vapor genie that apparently had a lot more dmt still in it, and I just eyeballed another 40mg and put it on top...this was too much.

It didn't scare me away, but I definitely plan on taking a little break. It's been one week and I'm still not any any rush to pick the pipe up again. Next time I'm smoking less and I would like to try a caapi tincture.

I'm confident that when I decide it's time to try again it will be much better.

Rug•Wall•Ceiling•People•Fruit•Music
 
soulfood
Senior Member | Skills: DMT, Harmaloids, Bufotenine, Mescaline, Trip advice
#2 Posted : 2/22/2012 2:12:11 AM
Alcohol before spice is probably one of the worst things you can do to impair the experience.

If I've had to much to drink, which isn't necessarily to the point where I physically feel it, as soon as the vapor starts to settle in my lungs, I know it's not going to go the way I intended. It's always orange for one, so it was interesting you observed that. Also everything seems fuzzy, like being trapped in a river of orange television static with a spiral in the middle of it all spinning right out of control as the experience becomes more intense. Nothing is ever gained and it leaves me feeling quite vacant afterwards.

These days, if I've had even a couple of beers and for some reason or another I get "the calling", I will always test the waters with a very small dose. Once I inhale, I can immediately tell if a larger dose would be appropriate. The body high is much more noticable and visually/mentally it feels like I've taken a whole other substance which is extremely inferior.

Just remember that DMT is very complex medicine and alcohol lowers your ability to deal with anything mentally complex to your full capacity. The more drunk you are the more obviously disorganised the trip will become.

Glad you had a nice day though Smile
 
deeplake
#3 Posted : 2/22/2012 5:17:58 AM
IMO a scarry trip is just something that happens every once in awhile. I do it all the time and still get a freakout every now and then but I kinda like them in a way. I've never known fear like an absolutely terrifying DMT trip and find it thrillingTwisted Evil

But don't worry about it. Betcha next time you do it won't be badVery happy
I have an overactive imagination, and am certifiably insane. So anything I post is purely fictional.
 
dtrypt
#4 Posted : 2/22/2012 9:31:44 AM
Those combined factors led to an unpleasant experience, but seriously, get a high resolution scale. You probably took way too much...
 
JuremaSpaceship
#5 Posted : 2/22/2012 3:14:41 PM
Thank you for the support and reassurance.

I plan on investing in a good scale this week and maybe a bottle of 10x caapi tincture.
I may give it another week or 2 before trying again but like I said, I'm not in any rush. I've had plenty of good dmt experiences and only one not so good experience, so I have faith that next time will be good.

Rug•Wall•Ceiling•People•Fruit•Music
 
 
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