First of all i know we generally don´t discuss these kinds of drugs here and sorry if this is way offline.
Warning:
Opium and all opiates are physically addicting and should be used with extreme caution, never ever binge on opiates or even use them somewhat frequently.
Dying from an overdose is very real and also the risc of contamination from shady dealers are big
Anyway a friend of mine gave me a gram of his home made raw opium, i have never done any opiates except kratom a few times and i don´t plan to either.
But since i got this little chunk here i might as well see what it´s about, since it´s a natural compound and not some lab made pill i feel that i can´t loose too much by trying it a few times.
I will most likely never get my hands on opium again so addiction seems far away form smoking just a gram of it.
So what is the best roa? do i need to vape it or could i mix it with some hash and smoke?
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Opium and hashish is an excellent smoke after a night of dancing on LSD.
It's always provided me with visions of people for some reason. Conversations. Scenarios. Very dreamy.
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So smoke it in a pipe with hash and tobacco would work?
How much should i use?
Also i will be saving this for the next time i drop some cid, sounds like a great idea to use on the afterglow, how would it work with dmt? not together but maybe a while after ot before i smoke the changa?
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I agree that O is great the day after any exhausting psychedelic experience. I love coming home to some O after a long tripped out festival, for example. Too much hash or weed into the mix and the high can become slightly agitated, for me, and really detracts from the O experience. A little teensy bit can be very good however. "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
I appreciate your perspective.
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Just start with a small amount pressed into a disc and work your way up. Yes, a pipe works fine.
I've only ever smoked it on the acid comedown and it was just heavenly.
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Cannabis and O go together nicely. They potentiate each other. Just start small and work your way up. Sometimes you enter cartoon time where everything starts to look a bit like cartoons, the color and shape of your environment and people look different, cartoon like and otherworldly. Report your experiences once you've tried. Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous.
— Terence McKenna
All my posts are hypothetical and for educational/entertainment purposes, and are not an endorsement of said activities. SWIM (a fictional character based on other people) either obtained a license for said activity, did said activity where it is legal to do so, or as in most cases the activity is completely fictional.
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SHroomtroll wrote:So smoke it in a pipe with hash and tobacco would work?
How much should i use?
Also i will be saving this for the next time i drop some cid, sounds like a great idea to use on the afterglow, how would it work with dmt? not together but maybe a while after ot before i smoke the changa?
Okay soooooo, You could smoke it in a pipe as you describe. I have smoked it a couple hundred times easily and the way its normally done in a circle of people, is with a hot knife and a hanger, use a blow torch to heat the knife up, put a small ball of the opium on the end of the hanger wire. You could also use glass paddles used for hot knifing. I wouldnt use it in a pipe because of how thin it gets when it is heated and then how it turns to glass when it cools. A pipe IMO is not a great choice for this. You'll figure it out. Have fun, IH Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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SHroomtroll wrote:How much should i use?
If you dont have much experience with it, it's gonna take a bit. take a pea sized piece and put it on your hanger wire use this wire to manipulte it on your hot knife. I would take at least a dozen good heavy tokes. As you master the administration technique you'll get the hang of it and then a dozen tokes will take you to new highs new levels. I wouldnt mix it with anything. Opium straight up. Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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Yeah, I wouldnt smoke it in a pipe. Most of the time I smoked it, it was out of some tinfoil. I know it sounds terrible, but I found it's the best way. Tea could be an alternative. When I was in Egypt, I drunk some and it gave me the strongest visions I ever got from it. Although I was the only one out of six people who didn't puke  Or you could go for the back entrance... I heard that it's the best way and it doesnt give nausea or whatsoever. Listen to a man of experience: thou wilt learn more in the woods than in books. Trees and stones will teach thee more than thou canst acquire from the mouth of a master. St. Bernard
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Drive a small nail or needle through a coke bottle top, Put the opium on the Nail/needle, light cover with a glass, the flame goes out and fills the glass/jar with smoke, inhale from the bottom of the glass with a pen tube. My opium smoking days are long since through however. Toadfreak!
Travel like a king
Listen to the inner voice
A higher wisdom is at work for you
Conquering the stumbling blocks come easier
When the conqueror is in tune with the infinite
Every ending is a new beginning
Life is an endless unfoldment
Change your mind, and you change your relation to time
Free your mind and the rest will follow
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I wouldn't try ingesting any orally if you haven't any experience with opiates. Taking to much can make you violently ill, little more than that can be a serious problem. Smoke it little by little, it is easy to go further than you expect, you might think you have a good buzz then all the sudden you really feel it. Toadfreak!
Travel like a king
Listen to the inner voice
A higher wisdom is at work for you
Conquering the stumbling blocks come easier
When the conqueror is in tune with the infinite
Every ending is a new beginning
Life is an endless unfoldment
Change your mind, and you change your relation to time
Free your mind and the rest will follow
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I'm with Toadfreak on using caution about oral or tea ingestion. One time I grew a bunch of poppies, scored the pods and collected the latex, and made tea. And it's about the sickest I have ever gotten from ingesting anything -- in three decades of experimentation that was probably my roughest day. I was shivering, nauseous, could not get warm, was unable to get off the couch, and my wife was watching me carefully and considering a trip to the ER. Pulled out of it but it was NOT fun.
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vaporizing small ammounts, like 1/4 of a pea in size, use hot metal or glass paddlees to do it. Use a blow torch to heat up your implements. When I have done it we used a bong every time. I'ts better/easier when its a two person operation, IME Just get the server to work the material with hot implements right over the bowl or stem of the bong. Its not rocket science. Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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PS please dont use aluminium foil  Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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Ice House wrote:
I wouldnt mix it with anything. Opium straight up.
100% agreed. Also don't expect it to be an activity enhancer like weed. Just lay down, turn off the lights, put on some slow music or ambient sounds, and let it take you to warm, happy hypnogogia. 
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SHroomtroll, Please take a look at this thread: [NEW] Policy regarding discussion of different drugs To keep this thread on the DMT-Nexus please add a good safety profile and warning to your first post in this thread, to see a good example on how to do this please check the DXM thread from Hyperspace Fool: Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide (DXM Redux)I already see several alarming warnings from other members in this thread so please add it asap. Kind regards, The Traveler
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If I ever had raw opium I'd like to make laundanum, it's just an alcoholic extract of opium and it was 'en vogue' in the 19th century artistic 'milieu', you can take a few drops sublingually and the nausea should be kept at bay with this ROA To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.
- William Blake
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i will most likely smoke/vape this since that seems the cool way to do it  Hot knifing seem to be the prefered method then, or maybe i could stick it on a pin and heat it with a knife or similar then try to "chase the dragon" with a tube or similar?
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laudanum has some herbs add to it to increase potency, also knwo that alcohol makes it stronger, so be careful with dosage. As a side note, we know opium is an opiate, and is VERY addictive, and also overdose are deadly so this is a very UNSAFE plant extract to use. Smell like tea n,n spirit !
Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
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Good points rom, extreme caution will be used when trying out this extract since i have no idea how potent it could be.
The guy who gave it too me is not a daily user but has his fair share of opium experience and he said this was a very fine extract.
So a gram could be very very strong and i will probably start with less than 0,1 and just do it one toke a time.
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