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The DMT Chronicals: Palemides, Plato and the Psychedelic Options
 
3rdI
#1 Posted : 12/27/2011 11:28:43 AM
I have just finished reading this book and i found it quite interesting.

In a very broad nutshell the book goes as follows....

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guy discovers psychedelics, gets led by his human teachers through his psychedlic education, DMT finds him, he smokes vast amounts of DMT, he saves Plato's forms with help of The Elf Goddess, gives up psychedlics.


This is very brief and probably doesnt do justice to the Terrence Turner (the author) but its the general gist.

My knowledge of Philosophy is very poor at best and i found some of these parts of the book hard to understand.

What i did understand were the tales of his travels, although he has clearly taken the realm of Self Transforming Machine Elves a step further than me. I have always had personalised unique experiences however this guy seems to have jumped straight into TM's DMT experience and claims to have achieved an increadible feat of Philosophy.

I suppose im just wondering what other people thought of this book, I dont know what DMT is/does/takes you, but im not as convinced as Mr Turner that the Elves/DMT beings have all the answers. If these answers are from within and he is really obtaining this knowledge from himself, then it seems crazy to me that you can teach yourself something you dont understand. But even more crazy would be that the Elf Goddess really is real.

(Terrence Turner says in his book that he was a well received poster on The Shroomery, so in the of small chance he reads this i dont mean to dismiss his experiences, its just that this is one of the craziest accounts of DMT interaction i have yet read.)

INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

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DoingKermit
Senior Member
#2 Posted : 12/27/2011 11:41:03 AM
The author posted drafts of the book here on the Nexus. I find it cool that you bought the book without knowing this, which makes me believe it has become fairly popular. In the thread the author wasn't even sure it would get published. I read a few chapters of it in that thread and thought it was pretty good, although i'm not sure i would go out and buy it.
 
3rdI
#3 Posted : 12/27/2011 12:23:43 PM
cheers DK, i will look through that thread shortly.

I think its worth picking it up if you have a few quid spare. Im slowly woking my way through the amazon collection of DMT literature and this was next on the list.

It starts well and then goes pretty nuts by the end but TT seems to hold it together and get out before its to late.

The thing that keeps me thinking about this book is that me and the few people i know who indulge in the spice all have very different experiences from each other.

My friend had her first breakthrough last night, we were chillin on the bed and she said she would like to smoalk some spice but not alone, she asked if i would smoalk some straight after her, i agreed and we had a mini S.H.E.
When she got back she said that she had been in the same situation, in bed, but in an alternate reality, no colours, no madness, no flashs, just normal. She was in a normal world, lyin on the bed, but i was invisable and she was having a conversation with a a girl lying to her right. She said it was as if she was living someone elses life.

It just seems strange to me that you would go to the same world that someone else has described. It seems that maybe TT had a predisposition to go to the places that TM described instead of going to/creating his own.
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

fool of the year

 
Global
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#4 Posted : 12/27/2011 1:42:24 PM
3rdI wrote:


I suppose im just wondering what other people thought of this book, I dont know what DMT is/does/takes you, but im not as convinced as Mr Turner that the Elves/DMT beings have all the answers. If these answers are from within and he is really obtaining this knowledge from himself, then it seems crazy to me that you can teach yourself something you dont understand.


Even assuming that all of the information is coming from the inside (which I don't think is so), there is a vast amount of information in the subconscious with which your ego has rare conscious access. Adults tend to be left-brain dominant. After acquiring language as a child, the left hemisphere proceeds to develop at a much higher rate than the right, and people tend to become left-brain dominant such that they think analytically in details and parts, but there's a whole wealth of information and just a completely different way of processing the same input from the other hemisphere, but being that adults routinely aren't in touch with this alternate information processing, new information acquired from DMT trips that are largely symbolic and right-brain oriented get analyzed and broken down into workable bites on the left thus giving the sensation of having learned something. As I said, I don't think that a 100% internal answer is the whole story anyway, but that provides an appropriate means as far as I can see for explaining to some degree DMT's internal knowledge component.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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