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benzyme
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#1 Posted : 10/30/2011 5:37:42 PM
scent of the angels, more effective than your petty lemon oil.
discuss.
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teotenakeltje
#2 Posted : 10/30/2011 9:25:02 PM
You've messed with chemicals for too long my dear! Smile

But seriously, the smell of xylene is ok IMO...MEK is far worse.
 
jamie
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#3 Posted : 10/30/2011 9:33:08 PM
xylene smells discusting and gives me killer headaches. It works and I have used it in the past before I used limo..but never found using xylene to have any advantages to using limonene at all. Both yield a full spectrum alkaloid stuff except with limo you dont need a freaking fume hood to avoid blacking out while extracting.
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soulfood
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#4 Posted : 10/31/2011 12:41:01 AM
I found I get cleaner results with xylene. Limonene seems more keen to leave itself lying around on all manner of product.

But smellwise?... Xylene's definately an outdoor thing, though I happily put limonene in my oven Smile
 
benzyme
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#5 Posted : 10/31/2011 12:55:40 AM
if you look at surface electrostatic maps, tryptamine alkaloids have solvent accessibility centered about the indole moiety. xylene has more conjugation than limonene, thus it is the more effective solvent for extraction of these alkaloids; same with phenethylamines. like dissolves like, and xylene has the more similar structure
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"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
jamie
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#6 Posted : 10/31/2011 1:01:45 AM
xylene did have very clean pulls for me too..

However if I pull with limo and salt with acetic acid..and then freebase it with sodium carb and repull with limo, fasi that..collect precip and convert back to freebase-that was def cleaner than when I just pulled with xylene. It is a bit more work but definatily cleaned up some of the non active stuff that limo picks up if some people dont like it being in there.

Never had a problem with limo yeilds or anything. It was the same as xylene..well over 1% and up to 2%
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#7 Posted : 10/31/2011 1:57:21 AM
Here's what I don't like about limonene:

Why does everybody lose limonene in the base mix? What is up with that?
 
Ginkgo
#8 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:02:44 AM
Limonene is slightly soluble in water (13.8mg/ml @ 25°C). I think limonene shouldn't be used in wet teks, or alternatively that you should perform at least one extra pull.
 
benzyme
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#9 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:08:25 AM
that doesn't really matter. dcm is also slightly miscible with water, yet is a formidable solvent for alkaloid extraction. then again, halogenated hydrocarbons aren't quite like the other commonly used solvents
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#10 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:36:57 AM
Smells like a job well done Smile . Last visit with xylene was very pleasant. If ya don't like the stink, take it outside Smile. You can crash out of xylene just like d-limonene, but no emulsion problems. Much more affordable.
 
jamie
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#11 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:40:21 AM
Ive had emulsions with xylene..
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benzyme
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#12 Posted : 10/31/2011 11:02:56 PM
swirl, don't shake.
I use a magnetic stirrer, emulsions are never an issue.
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"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
 
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