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Not I but We
#1 Posted : 8/31/2011 3:33:50 PM
Obviously receiving DMT by injection requires having a person trained in giving injections. I don't know anyone like this and would never attempt doing anything involving injection unless I did.

That said, and having read the spirit molecule, I am wondering if anyone here in the Nexus community has experienced a DMT trip by injection. I am sure it is different and perhaps smoother than a vaporizing experience. The smoke is so rough, it be nice to take it out of the equation.

Does anyone have any stories they would be willing to share?
The above refers to the fictitious 'I'

http://galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

"When shall I be free? When I shall cease to be.
No more I but we, in perfect harmony" - Shpongle
 
tele
#2 Posted : 8/31/2011 5:37:34 PM
Not I but We wrote:

The smoke is so rough, it be nice to take it out of the equation.

?


The smoke is so smooth that I can take full dose from a GVG in one inhalation. That is, invest in proper smoking device and screen. Yellow DMT is smooth, but white is even smoother.
Therefore, I see no point in injecting DMT.
 
Not I but We
#3 Posted : 8/31/2011 6:36:33 PM
I don't have a GVG, but the pipe i use definitely does the trick. Usually it only takes me one hit. I am very much accustomed to the experience, and I wouldn't say that its a problem by any means, but still the idea of just lying there and making no effort and suddenly.... SHAZAM!! just sounds awesome.

Again I have no intentions of trying to inject DMT, I was just wondering if anyone here has tried it and was willing to share their experience.
The above refers to the fictitious 'I'

http://galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

"When shall I be free? When I shall cease to be.
No more I but we, in perfect harmony" - Shpongle
 
FlyingFaders
#4 Posted : 9/25/2011 9:12:22 PM
Someone I see in the mirror regularly has tried spice fumarate via IM and IV injection.
IM dosages tried: 60mg - 120mg
comes on in 5 mins; lasts 1 hour.
CEV's a little disappointing. Somewhat vague. OEV's more intense if one nicks a blood vessel.
IV dosage depends on body weight. My maximum was 55mg, which equates to 0.6 mg/kg for me. This is, as for Dr Strassman's study calculated for the equivalent of freebase (divide by 1.3)
Here is something that happened after 55mg:
11:28 Slowly fading. 55mg IV!
It would be very interesting to see what an observer in the room would have made of that! I felt it coming on quick, and began a swirling yogic motion on the bed in front of me with my hands. The bed became this black sticky bituminous stuff I was stirring! At first I was engrossed with the sticky stuff I was making and stirring. I could feel it sticky on my fingers and, my hands were also black with two or three ridges down the back of each finger like the stitching on some pairs of gloves. My fingers were stubbier than normal. I stirred and moved my upper body in a circular motion, my face coming down near this swirling pool of dark magic stuff. It looked like the texture of thick chocolate icing for a cake, only darker. After a while I began to notice the rest of the room which had taken on the same black and charcoal colours, all the shapes vastly simplified. The picture on the wall was a panel of mid-toned charcoal. The curtains were pitch black. The walls a lighter grey. There was the tiniest moment of scariness to it, but that was quickly subsumed in the feeling of great joy at being privileged to be able to create something like this. I continued to swirl, rotate and stir.
Gradually the room came back to normal. It was some twenty minutes after the injection that I began this description. I am afraid I can no longer cling to the notion that I can explain magic away as something without a tangible physical “reality”. That whole thing was so real, I am pretty convinced an observer would have seen what I saw. The incredible stickiness of the magic substance! The most tactile thing I've ever experienced on any drug. But this stuff is no mere drug! This is a doorway. A portal to a realm so completely other it makes the ego want to run screaming from the room, it's eyes bugging out of it's head! This was the first time I've really experienced that realm as being more real than that which I normally inhabit. If fact it did not seem like another realm at all but an extension of this one into a higher dimension.
What an incredible privilege and joy to be able to experience this!I feel the deepest of gratitude to all that is for this grace. Thank you!
 
Not I but We
#5 Posted : 9/27/2011 2:14:58 PM
Thank you for sharing your experience, FlyingFaders! Sounds very interesting. Although I have never saw a dark swirling pool of magic stuff like you did, I usually experience what feels like an alternate universe or like you said an extension of this one, where the ego simply cannot exist. Hard to describe in words...

Thanks for sharing!
The above refers to the fictitious 'I'

http://galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

"When shall I be free? When I shall cease to be.
No more I but we, in perfect harmony" - Shpongle
 
Simon Jester
#6 Posted : 9/27/2011 7:56:43 PM
Not I but We wrote:
Obviously receiving DMT by injection requires having a person trained in giving injections. I don't know anyone like this and would never attempt doing anything involving injection unless I did.

That said, and having read the spirit molecule, I am wondering if anyone here in the Nexus community has experienced a DMT trip by injection. I am sure it is different and perhaps smoother than a vaporizing experience. The smoke is so rough, it be nice to take it out of the equation.

Does anyone have any stories they would be willing to share?

IV administration will lead to shitty low dose trips, mediocre and overcomplicated mid-dose trips, and STUPID INTENSE high dose trips. It's truly not worth the effort and discomfort vs. smoking or vaping unless you need a precision shot for those occasional 100mg doses. (obviously not a novice maneuver)

In my personal experience: IV/IM administration is practical only when a very powerful high-dose trip is desired, and the user is aware of and familiar with these states. The trip is roughly as intense as a similar vaped dose. The onset is much faster and rougher than a similar vaped dose. The trip lasts longer and the come-down is more abrupt than a similar vaped dose.
A 75mg "quick push" will hit you in two heartbeats, you'll away from your body in four, away from your ego in ten... Because of this and the obvious risks involved, DO NOT attempt this unless you are a trained medical technician or have one handy to administer for you. Self administration requires *perfection* to eliminate lethal risk.

The "ride through the veil", as it were, was anything but smooth in my IV experiences. It's a fast, rocky, and immediate immersion, and should only be attempted if you are familiar with the transition and can do it with grace in the worst circumstances. After that, well... I don't really need to explain that part, now do I? Pleased

Godspeed
 
endlessness
Moderator
#7 Posted : 9/27/2011 8:05:47 PM
Also please check safety recommendations here:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/FAQ#Can_DMT_be_IVed.3F
 
FlyingFaders
#8 Posted : 9/27/2011 8:53:17 PM
Yes, the IV experience is quick and strong.
It is not something I would recommend to anyone.
I found that a 1mL syringe fine for getting the whole dose in and once removed, there were a few seconds to prepare for the launch. I sometimes find with smoking that I am so busy concentrating on keeping it together to vape the stuff that before I know it I am already out there with no chance to settle myself. That final toke were it is difficult to focus and things are already looking very odd!
With the IV route you get what you measure every time. There is no chance of burning some and fluffing it. I found it easy to get a smooth gradient on effect with increasing dose.
It is essential to have extremely pure material. Many washes and a couple of re-crystalisations with filtration. Also sterile injectable solution is useful.

PLEASE NOTE: As I said I don't recommend anyone try this. Unless you are very, very sure of what you are doing and have help at hand in case of emergency. Purity of product is very important. It is amazing how much junk you can clean out of what looks like clean fumarate.
Be careful out there folks! You only have one body. Look after it!
 
FlyingFaders
#9 Posted : 10/5/2011 5:26:51 PM
@Simon Jester - anyone who injects 100mg deserves what they get! That is just insane. The shit thing is it will cause more trouble for the rest of us when they end up in hospital somewhere.
 
 
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