I have had some truly amazing experiences with DMT, but I have never felt like I have 'broken-through'. Part of the reason why I find it difficult to break through is because when I smoke DMT my body, especially my abdomen, feels like it is being twisted. This effect is much more noticeable and unpleasant at higher doses. I think my approach to smoking it may be wrong, which is to breath in and hold as much smoke as possible in 1-2 breaths and then wait for the effects. Perhaps I should take 4-6 smaller tokes to make the experience more gentle.
Also I have noticed that the longer a batch of DMT is exposed to the air the more pronounced the twisted effect is, similarly smoking the yellow oil/residue in the pipe produces this effect more than using a fresh bit. Could DMT oxide be the culprite?
Does anybody else get this sensation? If so what have you done to overcome it? Thanks a lot
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What is your smoking device and technique? I always take a vaporized dose in one inhalation, and have never had discomfort. Is the “twisting” unpleasant just because it’s a strange, unfamiliar sensation, or is it painful? Salvia always produces strong sensations of my entire body twisting, pulling, folding, flattening, stretching, etc. but there is never any pain. I don’t find these sensations to be uncomfortable, but some do. gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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My device is a simple variant of 'the machine' using a glass tube attached to a plastic bottle. Like the machine the dmt is heated and melts onto coarse steel wire and instantly vaporises.
Twisting sensation is not painful, but uncomfortable at higher doses 30-50mg. Makes me want to curl up into the foetal position. I get strong visuals but the majority of the feelings are somatic and auditory, kind of feels like taking off in an aeroplane.
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delta-9 wrote:My device is a simple variant of 'the machine' using a glass tube attached to a plastic bottle. Like the machine the dmt is heated and melts onto coarse steel wire and instantly vaporises.
Twisting sensation is not painful, but uncomfortable at higher doses 30-50mg. Makes me want to curl up into the foetal position. I get strong visuals but the majority of the feelings are somatic and auditory, kind of feels like taking off in an aeroplane. What is your position when you smoke? Sitting? Lying down? Swim likes to hot shower, get really loose, relaxed, and comfortable and lie back in bed. Maybe you're sitting and your body isn't comfortable enough to let go? Many like to launch in the sitting or lotus postion I know, but that doesn't work for everyone. Peace
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Note that the poster of this message would never actually use or recommend to use illegal substances. He is just an attention seeker and should be considered to be lying about everything he posts and his posts are only for the sake of generating discussion.
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yeah I know that exact sensation. I get it in my lower back and stomach sometimes..it makes smoking larger doses sitting up uncomfortable..and it has NOTHING to do with purity or anything like that..LSD does the same thing..same with psilocin, mescaline etc..I think it is due to slight vasoconstriction..at times I get a stiff neck as well..these effects only last for the duration of the trip and once I am completely back they go away. Laying down in bed is the best in a comfortable position. Anyone who has alot of experience with psychedelics, especially orally and LSD for sure will know what I am talking about. Alot of people even get minor headaches after LSD or this reason..I get it with mescaline every time. Taking psychedelics orally people often sit in weird positions and laugh histarically etc, and along with the slight vasoconstriction it can make your muscles a but sore. I noticed that harmalas and salvia divinorum dont do this at all, and they are vaso-dialators. The stretching and pulling of salvia are not what I am referring to here. I dont think it is anything to worry about. I just make myself comfortable when I smoke or take any psychedelic with pillows and blankets. Smoking in a warm bath is nice but I wouldnt reccomend anyone do that becasue some people might smoke too much and drown. Long live the unwoke.
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Fractals got it right.With LSD certainly, I fully understand how he says the most comfortable way to trip is to be lying on a comfortable bed; being up and about does seem to be physically more demanding.The habit has firmly stuck for pretty much all substances I like and I have never experienced this with DMT which is always experienced recumbent. What does the Nexus think about the brown ,been out of the freezer, spice-is it more physically taxing than white 'chilled' spice? Im lucky to have only used it after proper storage. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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You say you "wait" for the effects? Sometimes I am blasted into hyperspace before I even have time to wait...what doses do you usually experiment with? “The most compelling insight of that day was that this awesome recall had been brought about by a fraction of a gram of a white solid, but that in no way whatsoever could it be argued that these memories had been contained within the white solid. Everything I had recognized came from the depths of my memory and my psyche. I understood that our entire universe is contained in the mind and the spirit. We may choose not to find access to it, we may even deny its existence, but it is indeed there inside us, and there are chemicals that can catalyze its availability.”
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Yeah it normally takes between 30-60 seconds to come up for me. doses normally between 20-50mg
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