When I have low dose sub-breakthrough experiences my trip goes through a journey like a picture book and always ends where a thought pops into my mind seemingly out of nowhere and the instant it happens I come to and the visuals stop. While what that thought is always changes its a definite message to me about what I can change to enhance my life, sometimes its directed to me from someone else and I see it as how my actions effected them like I experienced me though them.

After my experience last night(ill post trip report soon) I'm wondering if I'm just reading into the trip to much, As its a very direct message I don't need to think like wow now what does that mean I'm given the meaning plain and simple. With higher doses its mayhem visually and I wonder what it could mean because its so out there its hard to conceive any meaning of it.

Does anyone else find something similar or am I just Reading to much into it?

This is very common. Personally themed messages are most likely the result of your own psyche 'wringing out laundry' so to speak. Set and setting. Set with the DMT experience is the thoughts and memories and information gathered in your life, and it makes sense the messages are personal given it's you having them.

I wouldn't, however, say there's some alien or 'other' giving you this message - talking to you. It's more likely you talking to you, via the DMT experience.

But I've been wrong before. This world is a very strange place indeed.

Yeah I know its my own mind and all that, just its a direct message not around about messages that are open to interpretation as to what it means, and its the instant I hear the directions as such that I pop out back into my body. Like once I get it I don't need to be there anymore. With other psychedelics I need to analyze and interpret the trip to see what is all about. This is different its word for word what to do. The trip its self appears random at the but upon hearing the instruction at the end it all makes sense.

^ I know exactly what you mean - it happens to me often. Sometimes the message is so clear and unmistakable that I am almost persuaded there's 'something' out there guiding and instructing me. This happens much more on aya, but lower doses of pure spice or changa can do the same. Aya gives me a manual while pure spice gives me a fortune cookie.

Either way, it's all pretty damn cool and interesting. I guess there's a reason so many of us are here. There's true value in the lessons it can teach.

Indeed it gives me answers to questions I didn't know I was asking.

And wait till it gives you questions about your answers...

That's what higher doses bring. Low dose=answer, high dose=questions.

I have to agree with this.

Its all you ewok. Its your experience, its your altered conciousness.



It is this and allot more. DMT unlocks a database stored in your brain that is infinite, just like the universe we live in.

Ive often felt like while psychedelics soften the gating response on our brain allowing us to perceive moar of reality. They tend to also soften the thin permeable barrier between waking consciousness and our subtle undercurrents of subconsciousness.
This manifests itself in improved behavior moar in tune with our humble reality thus increasing quality of life.
psychedelics in 3 sentences!

I know its all me, I'm more asking if others get the spoken word for word instructions? Its always at the end and instantly the visuals stop when I Hear the words.

I have heard others talk of this. I would assume its fairly common. I get verbal instructions from time to time, but it happens in the blast off phase. and then the visuals start.

^ This is how it is for me. They usually occur sub-breakthrough (more often with sub-breakthrough doses). I don't normally get messages post-breakthrough or 'once the buttons been pushed'.

What are the messages telling you? Do they seem to be denying something?

I dont think I have ever heard something actaully talk to me with vaped DMT. I have heard the same voice speak to me with ayahuasca and mushrooms many times. I can ask it questions even sometimes and it will respond in english along with visions, sort of a synesthetic question/answer session..it is real weird. I also dont get entities or anything it seems on a true breakthrough dose of vaped DMT. The entities always seem to be there only for the pre-breakthrough or like while I am comming back from hyperspace I will see them on the way out. When I am that deep into it it just seems to be that I am embedded into this sea of intelligent energy that is aware and informs all life but is more objective in it's approach and all the subjective forms span out of that place.

I don't really get a voice with these, but I get some sort of non-verbal communication through symbols and 'images' for lack of a better word. Do you have this as well?

I do have the non verbal communication you speak of as well, but on occasions I have also heard a consistant and distinct voice speak to me in english. This wont happen unless I took enough admixture in a brew or ate enough mushrooms, and am laying down in silent darkness. Most often it happens at the end of a trip where I am trying to fall asleap, but still tripping. I remember one mushroom trip where the voice was saying "they are comming" over and over, I began to engage it and ask "who is comming"..I was surprised when the voice answered immediatly saying "they..they..they are comming" and to go along with the spoken answer I was bombarded with visions of some sort of hyper-tehcno cyber race of beings filled with these futuristic cities and impossibole machines that did things I cant explain.

It is weird how many people have apparently had the mushrooms talk to them this way. Mckenna talked about it often. Who knows what that is all about though.

Just as an example its just simple stuff like ******(my partner) needs you to spend more time with her. Real random simple instructions that I understand without dmt most the time. Just with how regular it happens and how visuals stop instantly upon hearing the words strike me as odd.

Maybe I'm just to slow to get the messages via visuals and need plain English instructions.

I get verbal data. I hear spoken word. Female. What I hear is not a communication with me or between the two of us.

What I hear is a female almost computerized voice, but not quite. I liken the voice to a womans voice who would be paging or calling a doctor over an intercom in a hospital. The voice sounds human but it sounds so clean and steril that it could almost be a computerized voice.

The voice is normally spouting off data about me and the dosage of dmt I just did. the data may include, but is not limited to, how much dmt I actually have in my system, duration of the experience, the numer of times I have taken this dosage, re-assurances that there will be NO technical difficulties with the experience. Weird tid bits about me and trivial data about my relationship with dmt.

This occures in the first 30-45 seconds of lift off. It happens frequently, but not all of the time.

That sounds like some usefull info to have. I sometimes get a metallic tone that turns into a voice during trips but much different to the clean spoken fluent English that end's my trip. And haven't read reports of anyone else noticing it.

clear, distinct, messages within hyperspace: "this is what we are - this is what's going on." Of course, at something like 500 billion terabytes per second download directly to my consciousness. Whatever they are, it certainly is a lot of information to take in.

On the comedown it's like a group of voices cut and mixed up the way they do in some music tracks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw <- 0:27 - 0:37 of this one for example. Sometimes they are all expressing different things, or sometimes all expressing the same thing, or having conversations about me. It's all very fast moving and hard to grasp. It lasts for most of the comedown ~ 20 minutes or so, and happens consistently with all but sub-visionary doses.