Wax wrote:Although I have yet to try iboga or ayahuasca, I had to vote for salvia. Salvia is the reason I am at the Nexus today, it is the main reason I came to love and respect plant medicines so vehemently and still to this day it is the most powerful experience I have ever witnessed. Salvia completely and utterly changed me. I can't say that I enjoyed it whatsoever, but that isn't what this is all about now, is it?
Wow, thanks for re-opening this old thread! Odd... with the thousands of members here art the Nexus, only 20 have actually voted and two of those are as recent as today. But I sincerely thank all of those members who volunteered their choices for our collective observation and mutual edification.
And I too, share your deep respect and sheer amazement for Salvia Divinorum. No substance can so immediately remove one's sense of self and habitual conditioning. Brothers
Gibran2,
Dioxyppus and
Burning Mouth, have shared quite a bit of significant data about this intense entheogen and it is one of my Medicine Allies, for sure. And no... it's not a "fun" experience but it yields a unique perspective, to say the very least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pup Tentacle wrote:I voted mushrooms. Time and time again shrooms consistently slap cosmic sense into me like no other entheogen. I think DMT has proven very motivational as far as changing things in my life that need changed, diet, exercise, etc., but mushrooms really PUSH me to be a better person regardless of how difficult that may be. Not always a good time, but 90% of the time it's a worthwhile time.
Me too. Partly because in average doses, it is as potent as LSD or Mescaline. And IMHO, in higher doses it is an equal in Hyperspacial, dimension-skipping capabilities, to NN-DMT in it's many guises.
But also and this is key to my preference, I love this Sacred Plant so much because it requires so little preparation, before it is ready to embrace! Pic it, properly dry it and respectfully and reverentially eat it or imbibe it as a tea. So simple... ABC. A natural and earthy delight, linking us to the very Cosmos! No complex chemical extractions needed, lengthy brewing necessary or difficult to achieve procedures. Nothing extra is required to be done, save to fully rely on Mother Nature and the sheer Magik of psilocybin, which is so close to the molecular pattern of both NN-DMT and our own brain's natural Serotonin.
While I'd have to say that NN-DMT is the most immediate mind-expanding psychedelic, and is the most intense energy rush I've ever experienced, shrooms bring me to a similar level at a more moderate rate. This allows or a better degree of the necessary surrender and adjustment to the increase in energy, exponential mind-expansion and a dramatic shift in one's degree of spiritual awareness. To say nothing of the profound visuals accompanying the psychedelic voyage!
But I honor and respect ALL of these plant allies. Each teaches unique, transformative and powerful lessons. When we work with them, as consciously as we are able to, we are wise to resist comparing apples with oranges. Why bother? In other words, I see that for myself, these entheogens are most valuable if viewed through the lens of their own particular qualities and specific flavor and individual merits. But more than anything else, it's so important and primary to understand that the active chemical is only half of the equation, our mind is the equal constituent involved in the trip.
One might go as far as stating that each of these Sacred Medicines is like a highly specific lens which we gaze through, revealing nearly indescribable visions and breakthrough realizations/insights beyond words or quantifiable description. They each gift us a meandering pathway through the myriad levels of conscious-awareness, levels and frequencies of mind-shattering energy.
A blessing and an immense challenge... certainly no joy ride if we refuse to go with the flow of the force of the experience. A profound journey for the subjective experience of the observer of their Magikal play, throughout our nervous systems, brains and subjective field of human observation. Truly, they are gifts from the Sacred One. Spirit guides and great teachers, all of them.
Just sayin'...
There is no self to which I cling, for I am one with everything.