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tobecomeone00
#1 Posted : 3/12/2011 10:14:27 PM
I do have a question. Have any of you physical participated in your journeys? I always go so far, but I stay in observation mode. The second it gets WAY too real, I block it out and return...Have any of you physically (in a manner of speaking) stepped into these realms, and if so, what was your cue to come back? How did you come back? Did the drug wear off, and everything fades? What I am basically asking, is it possible to not come back? Consciousness is a POWERFUL thing, and DMT makes you realize that your whole world is created from your mind...if your mind goes, so does your life in a way. So, there's the question...any takers? Shocked
"The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."

 
gibran2
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#2 Posted : 3/12/2011 10:52:18 PM
Yes, it is possible to become fully immersed in the DMT realm. It can be very participatory, but often without a body, since the body is left behind (that’s why they call them out-of-body experiences, after all). On several occasions I wasn’t disembodied, and it is possible to interact in that environment as well.

There are only two fears I have regarding DMT, and both of them are irrational: I fear that it is possible to have an experience that will leave me permanently unable to function upon return (some sort of permanent psychotic break, I suppose), and I irrationally believe it is possible to enter the immaterial DMT realm and never return. What exactly it means to “never return” isn’t clear to me – would I die in “normal” reality, would normal reality cease to exist, would I awaken to discover that normal reality never existed in the first place? Who knows…

It’s all very irrational, and I consciously know it’s irrational, but a subconscious part of me isn’t so sure. I once had an experience that was unlike any other – it led me to believe I had died. I have never been so far from my body. I wanted so badly to get back into my body, but I didn’t know where it was or how to get back. Eventually, I was able to “will” my everyday reality back into existence. It felt very much like I was willing my “higher self” back into a dream-like state – dreaming this reality back into existence. That experience was over a year ago, and it remains my most profound and unique journey.

So to answer your question “is it possible to not come back?” – the rational materialist in me says no, but after some of the experiences I’ve had, and acknowledging the irrationality of the idea, I tend to think it’s possible to not come back, whatever that means.

And to answer your other question “how do you come back?” – there really isn’t anything you have to do. With “ordinary” DMT experiences, coming back is as natural and smooth a process as going away.
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tobecomeone00
#3 Posted : 3/13/2011 12:21:51 AM
Holy moly, I experienced THE SAME THING, down to a T...I was dropped in the middle of nowhere, and couldn't return until I answered a question, to which the answer was "I am God, imaging itself for itself", and then I was forced to recreate my reality, had to remember family, house, etc. Its what led me to this question in the first place. I agree with you on the level of complexity and profoundness of this lesson...its downright epic in its own right.
"The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."

 
tobecomeone00
#4 Posted : 3/24/2011 5:21:31 PM
Anyone else care to comment on this? Has there EVER been a full physical experience where you were literally walking around normally within the vision?
"The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."

 
pau
#5 Posted : 3/24/2011 5:56:16 PM
Ahhhhhhh
so we "come back" but find that what used to be "real" isn't so real after all....that IS a kind of dying, of not coming back to what we launched from.

This is after all why we psychonaut, why we meditate, in the first place.
WHOA!
 
 
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