Hey guys swim needs your advice! SWIM and a friend of him got this idea. the friend of SWIM is growing some pot at the moment. SWIM want to have some special pot after harvesting so he and his friend taking the whole thing very spiritually (talking with the plants while growing, structuring the water and so on) and now the question whats about to fertilize the growing plants somehow with spice or mimosa? would that have any effect on the pot after harvesting? do any of you have experience in this special case? swim couldnt find any information in the net about fertilizing growing plants with hallucinogens. swim could imagine it could have a small effect on the pot when smoked. swims inner feeling tells him that. now i ask you what you think about..


thank you for reading and giving swim and his friend some advice brothers and sisters

Haha that's a funny idea! I don't think it will make your grass extra "trippy" though. Plants convert all the chemicals and nutrients they absorb into something else, so I doubt the DMT will still be DMT in the buds. For example, if you use fish emulsion to fertilize your plants, you (fortunately) don't smoke that in your final product. You could consider trying it for spiritual reasons, but it could also be harmful for your plants. If you decide to try it, I would test it out on one plant so you don't mess up your whole harvest. Good Luck!

Mushrooms grown on a chaliponga substrate are a different story though.

too bad plant roots in general do not absorb molecules as big as dmt...

thanks for the reactions so far. good idea to try it first with only one single plant, maybe its more comfortable for the plants to fertilize it with mimosa instead of the spice, swim thinks we should give it a try. i would be very thankful about any information from someone who tried to fertilize any kind of plant with hallucinogenes. cant imagine that no one did that before. the next thinking is why that difficult just make some pot-changa. but would be awesome when the spice or mimosa would change the turn of the harvested pot in any kind. and my feeling tells me that there must be any difference. i think its similar with the phenomena about who did the spice. any spice is different just cause someone other did it. its the same with growing pot i belive. exciting experiment i will keep you up with following results.

@ Noman
that does have an effect on the harvested mushrooms? would be awesome to hear that.

@Infundibulum
why not? arent the roots "drinking" lots of watermolecules and send them through the whole plant with all the fertilizer molecules in it? why should dmt-molecules should dont getting absord by the roots?

would be fine to hear more from you if it could work and stuff.

dr.plant

DMT is an end product, the one you actively seek from the plant. it doesn't make sense to supplement an end product to a plant to obtain more of an end product, that's not how metabolism works. instead, you supplement with a precursor.

youd would have no effect. there is no crossover chemistry between the terpene synthesis track for pot and the tryptamine alkylation done by mushrooms and the like.

the best thing you can do is stop talking to it and learn from the not-for-profit-masters at marijuanapassion.org its like the nexus of herb. attitude wise.

mushrooms don't do tryptamine alkylation, they do hydroxylation at the 4-position.

I would say that maybe adding spice crystals wouldnt hurt, But something tells me if you start introducing ground up jungle root into your locally bought soil, you might run into some problems. But before your harvest you will be "flushing" your plants to ensure you get all the fertilizers, pesticides, or any other thing you added to the water or soil throughout the grow process, out of your plant so it smokes clean. When done, your ash should be white. if it wasnt properly flushed there will be traces left behind and the ash will be dark or black. Marijuana needs very little to grow, and can be burnt out easily on fertilizers, and you dont need much water.. It is up to you, I personally would just put a radio in the room and play some pink floyd during the grow process if you want some trippy weed.. Or in my case is I put on cat stevens, and then Ill play the entire woodstock 6 cd set over and over.. I think music and talking to your plants does them good.

Also, I had a friend who said he played some local deathmetal for his plants all the time, and it turned out to be the worse grow he had ever done...


Much peace and love. get back to us if and when your friend adds the stuff. I would love to know what the final summation is.

Well, they simply do not absorb macromolecules. Plant roots absorb micromolecules, like those contained in fertilisers. No fertiliser molecule is as big and as complex as dmt. Plant roots do not even absorb glucose, the molecule for which they go through all this complex process of photosynthesis. Can you imagine, if plant roots could absorb glucose you could grow them in the absence of light. Well, this is not the case.

On a more optimistic note, dmt may interact with mycorrhizae and they may affect in a positive or negative or neutral manner the way the plant absorbs nutrients. Generally though, do not put high hopes on these entertaining endeavours.

well thanks for your answers, swim and his friend will give it a try. who allready knows? lets see what will happen. the goal is not to give extra trippy pot its more the idea of giving it a special or spiritually touch.. i will come back to tell you how it went out.

greetings

swim thinks this is awesome.... swim is actually growing 2 special san pedros... has powdered up datura in the soil.. and is thinking of adding another entheogen in a few years.... so maybe you're on to something... just maybe you and this swim i know tapped into something .. do let us known what happens

a friend who is into organic gardening is getting ready to plant for spring 2011 and has a large batch of vegetarian compost that she's been working on the past year. In addition to the usual stuff such as carrot peelings and earthworm casings, this batch is rich in cactus and a variety of leaves and roots from the Amazonian jungles. I'll have to let her know about the Datura idea.

I hope to try some of the resultant home-grown produce later this year. While it is unreasonable to expect psychoacative tomatoes and squash, it makes sense that whatever any remaining entheogen chemicals breakdown into could effect the flavor and nutritional character of the plants.

Ayahuasca flavored eggplant could even be an improvement on the real thing.

Does anyone know if there are some fruits and vegetables that would be more likely than others to absorb some of this stuff?

Actually they do both.

thank you for your posting. we will see

when nothing works swim is thinking about making changa with it.

Thats always an option for sure. Cannabis changa is NOICE!!

what kind of a plant are you growing , grow a pure sativa if you want a psychadelic effect my sativa can cause a heartattack if you like racing this is gonna be great ,
pls don't waste the mimosa as more and more plants are being harvested from the environment and i think the spirit does not want it that way , i am planting and replanting mimosa now in my neighbourhood and forest areas nearby to give back what i have taken from the spirit ,
dmt is dmt , lsd is lsd and cannabis is cannabis , the high is so different for each of these that these and if you still want to mix the highs then you can do lsd , smoke marijuana and smoke a hit of dmt
still no need to waste precious mimosa
thank you

Thank you mate. Maybe that's an option.

i have thought about introducing dmt in my mushroom harvest. couldn't really get around it tho.
Sounds like a neat idea man. Will be waitin for yer results.

Say what now? How's that work?