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a rather strange experience with 40mg 4-AcO-DMT... Options
 
Bancopuma
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#1 Posted : 12/22/2010 3:27:35 AM
So earlier this eve, jumping on the SHE bandwagon, I thought I’d push the boat out a little and have a solo sesh with 40mg 4-AcO-DMT.

Just after dosing with it in a capsule, went and had a bath, started feeling giddy as I was getting out, time to go lie down.

I did so, in the dark, on my bed, with music. Feeling quite sick as it comes on. Yet also feeling very nice. Weird this...sick to my stomach, and blissful at the same time. This is the source of some amusement. I suspect the nausea may have been due to my eating recently before hand, and possibly it not being the most nutritious or healthy meal in the world. Am definitely feeling the desire to be horizontal during the come up...powerful. Very impressive visuals in the dark. I’m thinking maybe this stuff lacks a certain magical little something that mushrooms can have; I can’t put my finger on it. And I definitely don’t have a natural vs. synthetic bias. But I do like that mushrooms grow from the earth. You can’t argue with that.

Anyway, some impressive and very deep visual realms are experienced, beautiful with music. My nausea and a nasty stomach feeling are ever present. Most of the time my headspace is taken up with personal issues, focusing on my relationships with family and friends.

Then suddenly, my nostrils are hit with this smell...my body odour! It is really overpowering. Not sure if anyone else here has been near gorillas in a zoo? That’s what I’m talking about. I smelt repulsive. As I was experiencing this, I also felt like I was poisoned, and even close to death. The visuals during this time were pretty dark and dull as well...very far from magical. Hard to describe, even now the memory of the experience is fading, which is weird in itself as the experience was so incredibly vivid. In the light, in the mirror, my reflection was equally revolting. All manner of blotches and spots and imperfections. Wondering if anyone else here has seen the Cronenberg film The Fly? Well I looked a bit like Jeff Goldblum did some time into his metamorphosis! So yeah I seemed to be repulsive to myself on several different levels of sensory input. It wasn’t the 4-AcO-DMT that had poisoned me though...it was I that was poisoned. Through my actions and inactions. University stresses and emotional relationship stresses have been messing around with my life style. I haven’t been getting enough exercise, fresh air or contact with nature, my diet has slipped, and my sleeping patterns are off. I also need to be more proactive with my university studies.

I came out of this experience desperate for some fruit. I managed to concoct a smoothie out of frozen forest fruits, hemp seed, honey, olive oil, and a raw egg which I’m drinking now (it’s like a party in my mouth and everyone’s invited). I’m quite proud of this. I feel its part of what my body was yearning for. When I’ve finished this I’m going for a late night walk. Then shower. Then bed.

So yeah. There you have it...a strange and completely unexpected evening. I’ve never had an experience remotely like this. It was ultimately amazingly revolting in every sense, yet also very interesting, and helpful. Has definitely given me a powerful kick up the behind to take better care of this body I have, these amazing bodies we’re all so lucky to inhabit. So take care of yours to y'all! Wink
 
polytrip
Senior Member
#2 Posted : 12/22/2010 8:54:29 PM
Just a tiny bit of fresh fruits can make all the difference. You'd better have looked in the mirror after having had some fruitsWink
 
Bancopuma
Senior Member
#3 Posted : 12/22/2010 9:40:32 PM
It's funny I feel great today. Clean, at peace, purified even. Have been proactive with uni, planting lots of seeds for an experiment next year, and have been eating well. I think the thought of going home tomorrow is helping morale as well. But as revolting as the experience was I'm actually really grateful for it. I'm kind of both ashamed and impressed that I could produce such a powerful musk! This wasn't a placebo effect, when I came back from my walk I had to air my room, despite it being below zero here. It was hard to put into the words how revolting and poisoned I felt in both my body and brain...an incredibly vivid, multi sensory experience.
 
polytrip
Senior Member
#4 Posted : 12/22/2010 10:56:20 PM
I have no experience with 4-AcO-DMT myself, but i heard many times that it's actually very simmilar to psilocin. I think it must have been the accumulation of all the stresses and the bad food that caused the negative experience, and not the substance itself.

Being low on sugar is something that for sure negatively affects the psychedelic experience. I have experienced that eating fruit or drinking fruit juice if you feel tired or worn-out while tripping can give a boost to everything, including visuals, just within seconds.

The effect can sometimes even be quite spectacular, especially at the end of the journey when you haven't had any food for a few hours.
 
Bancopuma
Senior Member
#5 Posted : 12/22/2010 11:22:17 PM
Yeah I agree I think it was my system being hypertuned to its own inner state, as oppose to the 4-AcO-DMT poisoning me directly. All my experiences with it so far have felt incredibly clean and benign on the mind and body. My last experience before hand was with 30mg with close friends, and that was one of the most delicious drug experiences I have had for some time. So I feel it was down to me, not the drug. Amazing that it could highlight this to such a profound degree.

Interesting you say that about the sugar, friends have noticed the same thing. Apparently LSD can cause a drop in blood sugar levels, I think Albert Hoffmann stated this in one of his books, and recommend eating something later on in the experience to replenish this, to stop you feeling flat. It's likely that the other psychedelics will have similar effects. Natural, wholesome food, fruit in particular, is incredible when tripping and one's senses are opened up.

 
 
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