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bringeroflight
#1 Posted : 12/7/2010 5:36:09 AM
The overall tone of human consciousness isn't all that bright these days, is it? Arrogance and stupidity abound, people kill each other for their own selfish outcomes, control and power seem to be among our culture's most highly held and rewarded values. We live in an uncaring and discompassionate society, that prioritizes the selfish endeavours of personal ambition and success over others. Good people are often seen as a threat, we lie to one another to get what we want, and so on. What is humanity's problem? Why is human consciousness so cursed?!

Now, I'm not exactly going to say that humanity lives in such a pitifully disaffected state because our brains lack the proper amounts of DMT; but I am saying something like that. You see, the overall chemistry naturally possessed by us humans (or anything else for that matter) should be a perfect and accurate reflection of where the consciousness behind it lies. And apparently, the antics of fear, deceit, greed, ego-mania, corruption, dominion, and absolute control over others have their place in the bio-realm courtesy of a nervous system that doesn't seem to produce or use much of its own spirit-molecule. In other words, the spirit molecule appears (to me at least), to be the mechanics, or the biological stuff of enlightenment, and the lack thereof is the absence of the light as it were. It is the missing ingredient that would bring human consciousness to 'completedness'.

Because it seems to me, that when the spice is used my frustrations vanish, my cynicism is laid to rest, my core doubts and negativities dissolve, and all that is left is the clear and obvious image of what I really am. It has allowed me to attain perfect knowing. For me, DMT is a ride to exactly where I'm always trying to go. It seems to unite me with my life's purpose, and enables me to enact it with the greatest ease. The toil and monotony of striving to fulfill my hopes and dreams is ended, and my truest character, that is- my soul finally surfaces and is able to put its intents in to easy action. Everything I ever needed to know about myself is made clear, my abilities to do what I have always wanted are at their utmost. In this state of divine clarity, important thoughts and ideas of all kinds occur effortlessly, and I may manifest my destiny as freely as its revelations occur to me. It is a light that illuminates all, exposing the absolute for easy recognition.

So to me, all of this means basically what I started by saying: that DMT, is the, or at least one of the main bio/chemical elements of englightenment. I feel that it restores my brain to the way it was meant to function. It harmonizes my body in the material, earthly here and now that we are all encountering with my truest essence. DMT is the bodily facilitator of the perfect and optimal me; the receiver in this human outfit of what I truly and ultimately am. It brings me as close to full connectedness with every layer of my being as I have ever been, and I do feel that the road to enlightenment will naturally be reflected in the body with a more 'DMT-rich' brain state.

This is the spirit molecule people- it is the living fiber of pure and absolute connectedness with all.
I am awake in a dream called reality.
 
dream_denizen
#2 Posted : 12/7/2010 3:59:32 PM
Couldn't have said it any better. If only we could press this issue on the masses...
 
blue_velvet
#3 Posted : 12/7/2010 4:45:30 PM
The pineal gland was once thought to be vestigial. We know now that it entrains our natural rhythms to the seasons and the time of day. If the pineal is actually what produces DMT in the human body, maybe the original hypothesis of vestigiality is efficable. We often hear of the Golden Age, Eden, and "lost knowledge." Perhaps estrangement from the psychedelic experience (if you're a McKenna adherent) has resulted in a gradual shrinking of this organ.
 
ragabr
#4 Posted : 12/7/2010 9:40:15 PM
@blue_velvet:
the pineal gland does not have the proper biomolecular pathways for producing DMT. Apparently it's produced in the lungs and possibly the heart.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=6560
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=14291

@skullhuman:
what do you refer to when you say enlightenment?
PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
 
bringeroflight
#5 Posted : 12/7/2010 10:16:36 PM
Pure awareness and realization of one's ultimate self. Unity with your truest level of being.

But perhaps blue's vestigal theory could still play a part here. We can't say for sure that the pineal has always lacked the equipment to produce DMT. Although, maybe it has. Just sayin'. And is it totally for certain that there is no possibility whatsoever DMT could be metabolized without INMT? Again, no stance taken, just wondering.
I am awake in a dream called reality.
 
ragabr
#6 Posted : 12/8/2010 11:46:53 PM
How could you ever be separate from your truest level of being?

We could go down the evolutionary tree, and see if the pineal gland has the capacity at any point in its history. As for possibility of other pathways, others would be more qualified.

But what reason would we even have for proposing such a thing?
PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
 
bringeroflight
#7 Posted : 12/9/2010 2:39:00 AM
Quote:
How could you ever be separate from your truest level of being?


How could you ever not be enlightened?

Enlightenment is the ultimate level of being, which I personally experience a discord with on a regular basis (don't you?). This is what I mean by separation from the truest self. It could be that I'm using a vocabulary for this that doesn't make sense to you. Sorry if that's the case, but I'm not personally aware of a universally agreed upon dialect for these matters. At any rate, looks like a semantics problem we have here, as the concept should be sound enough.

The waters of my purest essence are indeed murky at this moment of incarnation. But hey, maybe that's just me, and the rest see with divine clarity?

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But what reason would we even have for proposing such a thing?


Gotta wonder. The pineal is thought by many to be a major 'spirit-center' within the body, so it seems (to me) worth knowing whether it has any relationship with the spirit molecule.
I am awake in a dream called reality.
 
shoe
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#8 Posted : 12/10/2010 5:16:55 PM
skullhuman: In regards to the pineal, I would like to know why the brain expends energy actively pumping DMT across cell membranes. The pineal is situated near many sensory receptors: DMT may spill out into these areas of the brain causing the visions.
shoe

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ragabr
#9 Posted : 12/10/2010 10:39:01 PM
skullhuman wrote:
Quote:
How could you ever be separate from your truest level of being?


How could you ever not be enlightened?

What would this "you" be, separated from it's "truest self"?

skullhuman wrote:

Enlightenment is the ultimate level of being, which I personally experience a discord with on a regular basis (don't you?). This is what I mean by separation from the truest self. It could be that I'm using a vocabulary for this that doesn't make sense to you. Sorry if that's the case, but I'm not personally aware of a universally agreed upon dialect for these matters. At any rate, looks like a semantics problem we have here, as the concept should be sound enough.

I'm not familiar with any traditional usage of enlightenment that speaks of it as an ultimate level of being. What in it appeals to you?

Gil Fronsdal wrote:
It is all too easy for people to take a profound experience as the goal of the path or to relate the experience to some concept of self. The feeling of interconnectedness with all life is very powerful. But if a person thinks that’s it—I’ve reached the final goal—they’re shortchanging themselves, because liberation is beyond conditioned experience. Meditative or mystical experiences of interconnectedness may be one of the most wonderful conditioned experiences, a pinnacle of conditioned life, but it’s still conditioned.

A challenging aspect of traditional Buddhist teachings is that any view that we hold about the nature of self, whether an independent or an interdependent self, falls short of full liberation; it’s just an idea. So I emphasize the power of mindfulness practice, nondiscursive penetration rather than reflective consideration. Nondiscursive mindfulness practice has a lot to do with mindfulness of the body, with direct experience.

Source: http://www.tricycle.com/...-two-traditions?page=0,2


skullhuman wrote:
Gotta wonder. The pineal is thought by many to be a major 'spirit-center' within the body, so it seems (to me) worth knowing whether it has any relationship with the spirit molecule.

Any relationship is a different question from producing it, especially via hypothetical round-about biochemical pathways.
PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
 
bringeroflight
#10 Posted : 12/11/2010 9:10:23 PM
shoe wrote:
skullhuman: In regards to the pineal, I would like to know why the brain expends energy actively pumping DMT across cell membranes. The pineal is situated near many sensory receptors: DMT may spill out into these areas of the brain causing the visions.


The fact that DMT is so easily distributed throughout the nervous system is more evidence to me that our brains are meant for it. Like I said, 'the missing link', that would bring human consciousness to a more whole, more connected, all-encompassing state. Without it, we live in the dark. If enlightenment has its neuro-chemistry, this is definitely it.. or at least an essential part IMO.

But just wondering - what visions do you refer to at the end of your post?
I am awake in a dream called reality.
 
 
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