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nn-DreemMasterTree
#1 Posted : 11/14/2010 3:41:55 AM
There are 2 main chemical families of psychedelic drugs:

The Phenethylamines and the tryptamines, the best known phenethylamine is mescaline, which I'm sure you all know comes from many different types of cactus, MDMA is also in this family.

Tryptamines all possess a nucleus, or basic building block, of tryptamine. Tryptamine is a derivative of tryptophan, an amino acid present in our diet.

Serotonin is a tryptamine---5-hydroxy-tryptamine, although it is not psychedelic it contains one more oxygen atom than dose tryptamine.

DMT is a tryptamine and is the simplest Psychedelic. Simply add two methl groups to the tryptamine molecule and the result is 'di-methyl-tryptamine': DMT.

5-methoxy-DMT, or 5-MeO-DMT differs from DMT by the addition of one methyl group and one oxygen.

Psilocybin is the active ingredient in 'magic mushrooms'. When these mushrooms are ingested, the body removes a phosphorous atom from the psilocybin, converting it to psilocin. Psilocin differs from DMT by onley one oxygen.
Many people like to think of magic mushrooms (psilocybin/psilocin) as "orally active DMT" Interesting to note some other names for psilocybin/psilocin, psilocybin also known as psilocybine or 4-PO-DMT. and psilocin or 4-HO-DMT (4-hydroxyl-dimethyltryptamine). So thay both are dmt, just differentVery happy Very happy

DMT while chemically simple, this spirit molecule provides our consciousness access to the most amazing and unexpected visions, thoughts and feelings. it throws open the door to worlds beyond our imagination.
DMT exists in all our bodies and occurs throughout the plant and animal kingdoms. It is part of the normal makeup of humans and other mammals; marine animals, grasses and peas; toads and frogs; mushrooms and molds; and bark, flowers, and roots.

DMT is only orally active with an MAOI, otherwise smoke it as I'm sure Ur all awareVery happy

It is not stretching the truth to suggest that the brain "hungers" for it.

All info and more can be found reading DMT: the spirit molecule
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SnozzleBerry
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#2 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:05:19 AM
What is the point/purpose of this thread? if you don't mind my asking...
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nn-DreemMasterTree
#3 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:08:25 AM
As this is the place for First Questions for Information i figure people can read this for a bit of info. why do u not like it here? My bad

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BananaForeskin
#4 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:10:42 AM
Uh-huh... uh-huh... ok?
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universecannon
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#5 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:14:47 AM
so thats what that stuff is!

people tried to tell me its what made me dream.. i said i dont even drink t...



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
nn-DreemMasterTree
#6 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:17:32 AM
I think when i die I'm gonna wake up in front of an empty cone of Changa

"Pay attention. And keep breathing." Terence McKenna

 
Apoc
#7 Posted : 11/14/2010 5:06:41 AM
Thanks, this post was informative to me, anyway.
 
BananaForeskin
#8 Posted : 11/14/2010 9:02:54 AM
nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
I think when i die I'm gonna wake up in front of an empty cone of Changa


Very happy
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Ellis D'Empty
#9 Posted : 11/15/2010 2:56:43 AM
Nice, always good to find a collective post of the molecules Smile

Although, I personally didn't learn anything from it, maybe others might Smile
01:13:08 ‹Ellis DEmpty› I met the people living in my head... I disturbed them while they were sitting down at the table.... They were as shocked as I was!

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Autodidactic
#10 Posted : 11/15/2010 6:32:56 AM
nice copy/pasting.
*The above text represents a fictional alter ego, none of it is based on the experiences of a real person.*

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nn-DreemMasterTree
#11 Posted : 11/15/2010 6:48:04 AM
I wrote it up from my copy of the spirit molecule, and a little bit was me. despite how pointless u think the original post was its a lot more informative than your posts knocking it.
If you like to identify with your ego a sight regarding dmt probably is not the best place.

"Pay attention. And keep breathing." Terence McKenna

 
shishigami
#12 Posted : 11/15/2010 6:55:56 AM
nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
Psilocybin is the active ingredient in 'magic mushrooms'. When these mushrooms are ingested, the body removes a phosphorous atom from the psilocybin, converting it to psilocin. Psilocin differs from DMT by onley one oxygen.


The fascinating thing about the conversion from 4-PO-DMT->4-HO-DMT is that it is catalyzed by the same enzyme that converts ATP->ADP+q, where q is energy. The conversion of ATP->ADP is one of the most important reactions in the human body. Without this reaction we would not be able to function as it is the source of all energy in the body. Basically our body mistakes the P in 4-PO-DMT for one of the Ps in ATP and removes it leaving us with the active 4-H0-DMT.


 
seven7seven
#13 Posted : 11/15/2010 1:18:29 PM
DMT is not the simplest tryptamine psychedelic as far as structure goes AMT looks simpler.
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The Traveler
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#14 Posted : 11/15/2010 1:47:55 PM
Hi nn-DreemMasterTree,

We have a Wiki for this kind of information, check it out!


nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
It is not stretching the truth to suggest that the brain "hungers" for it.

You are making the truth quite elastic with such a wording. Pleased


Kind regards,

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SnozzleBerry
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#15 Posted : 11/15/2010 3:34:19 PM
The Traveler wrote:
Hi nn-DreemMasterTree,

We have a Wiki for this kind of information, check it out!


nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
It is not stretching the truth to suggest that the brain "hungers" for it.

You are making the truth quite elastic with such a wording. Pleased

Laughing What Trav said...perhaps the statement, "It is the second most actively transported molecule across the blood-brain barrier, after glucose (which provides the brain with energy)," conveys what you're trying to say with a little less distortion.
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In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names.
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Infundibulum
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#16 Posted : 11/15/2010 4:01:54 PM
shishigami wrote:
nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
Psilocybin is the active ingredient in 'magic mushrooms'. When these mushrooms are ingested, the body removes a phosphorous atom from the psilocybin, converting it to psilocin. Psilocin differs from DMT by onley one oxygen.


The fascinating thing about the conversion from 4-PO-DMT->4-HO-DMT is that it is catalyzed by the same enzyme that converts ATP->ADP+q, where q is energy. The conversion of ATP->ADP is one of the most important reactions in the human body. Without this reaction we would not be able to function as it is the source of all energy in the body. Basically our body mistakes the P in 4-PO-DMT for one of the Ps in ATP and removes it leaving us with the active 4-H0-DMT.



Rubbish.

There's not a single ATPase enzyme in the body, there's a whole family of them. And ATPases belong to a larger class of dephosphorylase enzymes. You either spell me the name of the enzyme that hydrolyses psilocybin and reference it please otherwise keep the or keep the blah blah at bay.

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Enoon
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#17 Posted : 11/15/2010 5:01:17 PM
nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:

If you like to identify with your ego a sight regarding dmt probably is not the best place.

Is this kind of talk really necessary? Are we going to start pointing the ego-finger at each other now?

"You identify more with your ego than me"; "No you do"; "No you do". "I know for a fact that I'm enlightened and you're not"... Where does it lead?

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Xt
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#18 Posted : 11/15/2010 5:55:35 PM
Nice thread.

“Right here and now, one quanta away, there is raging a universe of active intelligence that is transhuman, hyperdimensional, and extremely alien... What is driving religious feeling today is a wish for contact with this other universe.”
― Terence McKenna
 
dream_denizen
#19 Posted : 11/15/2010 8:26:08 PM
nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
I think when i die I'm gonna wake up in front of an empty cone of Changa


WORD.
 
shishigami
#20 Posted : 11/15/2010 10:23:43 PM
Infundibulum wrote:
shishigami wrote:
nn-DreemMasterTree wrote:
Psilocybin is the active ingredient in 'magic mushrooms'. When these mushrooms are ingested, the body removes a phosphorous atom from the psilocybin, converting it to psilocin. Psilocin differs from DMT by onley one oxygen.


The fascinating thing about the conversion from 4-PO-DMT->4-HO-DMT is that it is catalyzed by the same enzyme that converts ATP->ADP+q, where q is energy. The conversion of ATP->ADP is one of the most important reactions in the human body. Without this reaction we would not be able to function as it is the source of all energy in the body. Basically our body mistakes the P in 4-PO-DMT for one of the Ps in ATP and removes it leaving us with the active 4-H0-DMT.



Rubbish.

There's not a single ATPase enzyme in the body, there's a whole family of them. And ATPases belong to a larger class of dephosphorylase enzymes. You either spell me the name of the enzyme that hydrolyses psilocybin and reference it please otherwise keep the or keep the blah blah at bay.



Yea, I just realized what I said was really stupid when I did a bit more reading. It is a similar action but not the same enzyme.
 
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