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dpwishy
#1 Posted : 11/1/2010 9:48:06 PM
Lately I have been working pretty extensively with ayahuasca vine. I decided to test the waters and mix it with lsd. I wanted to see a few things, as I also had some concerns about combining the two substances. My two main concerns were, how much could the vine increase the potency of the acid and would the phenethylamine section that is clearly in the LSD molecule give me problems when combining with maoi? When looking at the lsd molecule you can clearly make out a phenethylamine section, and also a tryptamine.

I did a short brew, maybe 2 two hour boils. This was reduced into a pint glass, which was way way to much to drink. I used 35g's of yellow caapi and 5 g's of caapi leaves. I usually take above 100g's of this vine, but there is hardly any research on this combination, and I was hoping to add to this, not get massively f'ed up. At first I wanted to see if the aya would change how the lucy took effect, and also in potency. To achieve this, the aya should be consumed first, but I did not know how much this could effect the acid so this made the acid dose really hard to figure out. If I take 1, and its not increased, that's a waste of a journey and paper imo. But if I take the dose I like, 4, and it quadruples like I have heard it could, I would not like to be on 16 doses and ayahuaca. I decided to smoke caapi leaves during the come up of the acid, to see how much it changed potency. Then I would drink the aya when the trip was turning full force, that way I could use the lsd as a microscope and watch how the aya was effecting my body, and if any adverse effects from the phenethylamine may come up. Knowing this I could more safely dose my caapi and lsd dose next time. But without this first fly, that information would be impossible.

I dosed 4 hits of white on white, that I would estimate are a little under standard family laying. I would guess there around 75-80 ug. I sat on my bed and smoked bowl after bowl of caapi leaves in my bong. It was rather annoying, it was like trying to pack fish food, and the amount that fit into the slide, was hardly enough. It had to be repeatedly smoked to consume enough that I noticed something. I wasn't to sure if the acid was coming on stronger, or if it was just kicking in more. But the visuals did have a different "feel" to them.

The doses were coming on pretty much full force at this point, so I went into the shower. There is something about being in the shower during this time that I love. Showering is a ritual for me during my trips. I usually just sit on the floor and meditate until I realize the water is to cold. I sat in the shower and tried to practice vipassana, it became really hard trying to scan my body for sensations, as I was all sensations lol. So I changed and did Anapanasati meditation, which is basically observing the breath as it is, not as we want it to be. This got me very deep. I was amazed at how effective of a tool this can be in navigating an experience. This was my first real full on experience since I was given all these great tools at a vipassana retreat.

I went back into my room and consumed the aya tea over about 15 minutes. Like I said, I had a whole pint because I did not have time to reduce it. This was awful to get down! But I managed to get it down in about 3-4 full gulps. I laid in my bed and used the microscope of the acid to watch how the aya was working on my body. What an amazing plant this is! I felt a spirit/presence that I NEVER feel on acid. That familiar elder knowledge, you know? I was shown allot of personal things. It spent allot of time working on viruses that were consuming my soul from my previous 5 year, abusive relationship. I am with a new girl now, a friend I have had for a long long time, who has always been there. I was shown that this is who I am supposed to be with, and how its been in my face for years and years. I just chose to chase what my ego wanted, not what my heart wanted. We have been together emotionally for a long time, it wasn't until recently it became open and physical. They are so right, true love, you don't look for. It just comes. I was shown how much this girl actually cares about me and my well being. How she wants me to grow and to learn, and will even sacrifice her position in my life so I can achieve that. I was shown that this was gods gift to me, what I always asked for and always wanted, she was God's love manifested in physical form, just for me!

I felt so stupid I didn't understand this earlier, and saw how she has known this for a very long time, years even. She stood back and let me do what I needed to, never interfering, just waiting. I don't know if she knew at some point I would see it like she did, or if she is just a true friend and an amazing person and let me grow the way i needed to, to realize the things I had to. This relationship is so easy, there is no work to it. I never even knew a relationship could be like this because of my last one, thinking that was love. That was just me letting someone abuse me and take advantage of my love and selflessness. For once, someone is giving to me, not just the feeling of me giving to them. I can't express how that feels. I have always felt like I was being drained of my love and energy, and now I have someone who not only gives back the same energy I give her, but maybe even more at times. Its a truly amazing feeling.

The vine also showed me that one of my main problems with taking these sacraments is integration. That I keep being shown over and over, what I need to do, how I need to change my diet, my this or that. That I take these experiences, and don't give them the respect that they deserve. I was shown that this is a major problem with a vast number of people consuming these plants. I was shown that if I really want to respect these teachers and the knowledge, then I will do what they ask of me. Not for a few days or weeks or months after, to just stop and go back to old ways. But to show them the respect that they deserve, the respect that they showed me by teaching me. I need to start listening. One thing I felt like I was shown was, if I truly want a real relationship with aya, my diet must change. I was shown how communication between the vine and me, can only take place with symbolism and realizations/intuition, until i change my frequency basically, so I can more clearly hear what its telling me in words, not showing me. I got the sense that there is something in my food, may it be meat, or this or that, that is blocking a transmission. I got the intuition if I suspended eating meat and other bad things for a week, and tried consuming, I would be told better how to change my diet. But first it has to be altered so transmission can begin. This lead to the realization on why there is such a strict diet for ayahuaca, sometimes 5 days before in the amazon. I never understood this because aya is a RIMA, it doesn't work like a normal maoi, and most food restrictions don't apply for safety terms. I started to realize, these people were not doing it because of fear of maoi combination, they do it for a better transmission between spirit and consumer. I rolled around my bed after the healing part of the journey was over, repeating "the jungle found the molecule" as I hysterically laughed like a little school boy, over and over, for God knows how long....

After the healing part of the journey was over, I laid in bed and listened to TOOL. I don't want to get into it in this report, as its long enough but there should be a whole thread dedicated to this discussion. But holy fuck dude, I know I have preached them for so long here, but they are fucking insane. Its on a whole different level. Its like they eat Pink Floyd for breakfast and shit out divinity. They legit scare me sometimes. The way they can actively, and knowingly effect certain mind states and have the ability to change wave lengths of creation with vibration, knowingly, its fucking scary. I have listened to all their cd's a million times, and I was completely blown away all over again. The layers that are in their music, especially 10,000 days album, is just out of control. They know what they are doing.....

About 6-7 hours into it I was ready to see my lady, so I called her up and had her come by. Right before she came, I felt a purge come on from the aya. I went into the shower, sat down, and puked what looked like blood. It was no where close to the color of the aya, it was a pinkish red (I was on 4 hits also though so who knows). After every pulse of puke, i gave thanks to the spirit, knowing that what ever this was, it was cleansing and healing me. This was some kind of baggage I carried, that I did not understand but clearly the vine did. I gave thanks one last time and got out of the shower and laid with my gift from god for the rest of the night. It was an amazing feeling laying there holding her, after realizing fully what I did. I felt so blessed, like I could physically touch and hold the love of god.

The acid definitely took a different feel, especially peak wise. I can't put my finger on it, but there was definitely a combination effect. I liked it allot, it gave something to the lsd that the lsd never has, the feeling of a ancestral presence. I had a great feeling of accomplishment, like I did something worthwhile, not only for me, but for the community. As I was thinking this, a friend online contacted me and basically said the same thing to me, it blew me away, like he was listening to my thoughts. There was one point where he was talking to me, and I understood completely what he was saying without words, he later contacted me to better explain what he meant, which he didn't have to, because I felt it without words, it was beautiful. It was an intense experience. The synchronicities in this combo were out of control, the whole trip felt like one giant synchronicity, there are to many to even talk about. It was happening at an alarming rate listening to TOOL. I see this as an amazing combo and felt blessed to be able to test it out, in hopes that in future journeys that not only I, but others, may work of this work and know how to dose more properly and safely with this combination. I felt safe in taking a full caapi dose before my doses next time, but I do plan on taking far less doses when I try this. Probably one max, as the repercussions could be quadrupole.

What a wonderful healing combo, now that I feel safe with the combo, I cant wait to take the aya before the lsd to compare results.

In Divine Friendship,
your brother,
-wishy
 
EquaL Observer
#2 Posted : 11/2/2010 9:35:52 PM
Fantastic report, you shouldn't worry about length, I love to dive in & I feel as if it is the details which really show the genuine quality in these experiences. You mention LSD misses the ancestral quality, I know what you mean here and I can't exclaim enough how much LSA seeds are LSD with this quality. If you delve into HBWR shamanic style, the revelations you can have involving all your memories, relationships and motivations are really divine & celestial.

I do hope to try a combo of rue/b.caapi with HBWR at some point as I have heard it can bring the LSA to higher intensities without inducing the discomfort which tends to distract me and make me unable to bring back anything from what is undoubtedly a place where invaluable ideas can be found.

Thanks for sharing and I hope to read more from you
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