As many of you saw from my other posts - this was my first real time with DMT. I initially wasted about 10mg- which was quite saddening. However, I then got the hang of it - and had about 3 session today. I started with 10mg - I felt the euphoria rush over me. My heart started racing. Took one last hit (4th one) and laid back. There were little to no CEV's - but just...feelings, emotions. It felt as though an angel had taken my hand, and guided my through the journey. I felt happy and sad all at the same time. I felt at one with the universe, with myself, and with people of all races, sizes, shapes, etc. I now feel refreshed having thought over the experience and gotten some sleep. After the initial experience, I tried again with 12mg - hoping to go a bit deeper, and really explore hyperspace. This time the onset was much more intense, and I nearly dropped my pipe. Again, I closed my eyes. Just as the first time, the euphoria was overwhelming - the most incredible feeling I've ever experienced. Still, however - there wasn't really anything to be seen. I noticed when I opened my eyes that when I moved my hand - the 'tracers' were extreme, and it felt as though I was RIGHT there - but just didn't quite go deep enough. Maybe part of it was that I was smoking it with cigarette tobacco, and the hits were so harsh that it felt like I was getting bigger ones than I did? I'm not sure. Yet still I feel like I learned, felt, and connected more than I have...ever. I'm hoping to find a way to get deeper, and truly see. Feel, and hear. If anyone has any tips on going deeper and really seeing - I would greatly appreciate it. Overall, first journey was incredible. I was in awe for the longest time. Regards, Rasta "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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Are you absolutely sure this was 5-MeO? 10-12mgs of 5-MeO should really have been a full release dose which left no room for doubt whatsoever. 5-MeO should be instantaneous - meaning by the time you exhaled, you probably wouldn't have had time to even consider a second hit. It's not supposed to be very visual (I've never actually done it - just read a bunch), but neither is DMT at that dosage. How long did it last? Did it come on as a blinding white light, or unfolding fractal geometry?
I'm not trying to challenge you or anything - I just can't imagine from all that I've read that anyone could open their eyes and recognize their hand or physical surroundings after smoking 12mgs of 5-Me0. n,n-DMT is, of course, a different story.
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90% sure - it has that VERY distinct dmt smell and taste - I don't know about blinding white light, but I did feel as though I went blind for a minute. Maybe it is because I'm using the tobacco with it and it feels like a MASSIVE hit and tears up my throat/lungs/chest. even w/o the dmt if I smoke cigarette tobacco out of a pipe its a harsh smoke, to me. I had a friend sitting across the room for the 2nd time - and I recognized him - but couldn't form coherent thoughts, sentences, nothing. I'm really looking to see entities, hyperspace - I dunno. Maybe I should increase dosage for this? "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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Alright, I would like to completely take back everything I was saying. I guarantee you it's 5-MeO I just felt my entire universe getting ripped apart. I was shot through heaven. I believe I was just having some issues really getting used to HOW to do it and accept it... I'm learning to respect it more and more. It's still very strange to me. Check back later. "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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You do know that DMT and 5-Me0-DMT are completely different substances, yes? 5-Me0 will never be particularly visual - that's just not a defining characteristic of it - but DMT is IMMENSELY visual at the higher dosage range. DMT also has a very distinct indole smell and taste - and don't doubt for a second that it has the power to rip you out of your body.
Did you extract this yourself? If so, from what source material?
If this is indeed 5-Me0 (or you're just not 100% certain), do not increase the dosage - a higher one may hurt you. If it's n,n-DMT, you can safely hit it up until you lose all motor control.
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SWIM once accidentally smoked like 30-40 mg of 5-MeO-DMT...something like that. I don't exactly recall the amount, but it was a good DMT sized dose. He got the 5-MeO-DMT mixed up somehow (placed it in the wrong container) and thought it was DMT. He took one big hit from his homemade vaporizer, and WHAM. That was it. It was the most frightening experience he ever had. Effects started before he was exhaling. It was freaky, super freaky. NEVER AGAIN will he do that. It was like being temporarily insane. Nothing made sense. All of reality just came apart and was complete nonsense. There was no insight to be had because the mental intoxication of that dose was so high that the brain could not function properly enough to appreciate anything that was going on in the mind. It was like being hit with a psychedelic nuclear bomb. It was unpleasant. But then SWIM LOVES SUBLINGUAL 5-MEO-DMT FUMARATE! That's a great experience. On par with LSD. SWIM has done that many times and loves it. Even at high doses it's nice. Smoking 5-MeO-DMT is really a waste of it. You can have a much more beautiful experience by using it sublingually. But don't use free base 5-MeO-DMT sublingually because that burns like hell. 5-MeO-DMT fumarate is fine though. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Is the white powder the free base form? I did not extract this myself, a friend actually purchased it and shared. I do plan on extracting my own n,n dmt - particularly if that's the more visual way to go. I've seen lots of extraction techniques - is there one that is best? I'd like to get a fairly large amount - at least 4-5g if possible, if not more. Thanks, Rasta "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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So 5meo HCL should be good sublingually too if I understand right. Smell like tea n,n spirit !
Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
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So, I know it's stupid - but would that be the white powder form? I'm quite ignorant still. "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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I don't mean to be a dick here, but you've really got to know just what it is you're taking before putting any such substance in your body.
If you're smoking anything in its salt form, you're not going to get much of a result. If you're smoking freebase 5-MeO and expecting the effects most often described by others within this forum, you're not going to get what you're looking for. If you're dosing in the same range as you see people discussing in here, you are in for a physically dangerous ordeal.
This is just one of many reasons that we, as a group, frown on buying and selling. You have one of the most powerful psychedelics on the planet in your possession (and now in your body), but you don't know exactly which one it is. This is really, really asking for trouble, in my not so humble opinion, and it's one of several very good reasons to always extract your own. Because even if you knew for sure what it was that you and your friend were taking, you'll never know just how it was extracted or with what particular chemicals. You should know these things - at least if what you'd like is to remain healthy.
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I understand completely. Now, with a clear head - I can guarantee you that it's 5-MeO, and it is indeed in freebase form. I was quite out of it when posting here yesterday. "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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Hmmm, another thing to remember is that one should not post when they are "out of it". Wait till you have a clear head and then posrt a proper thread with clear questions or comments.
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My apologies - I will make sure I'm either in a clear state of mind - or posting in that wasted thread. I feel like quite the dunce lately. Sorry everyone. "Just as a tree, though cut down, can grow again and again if its roots are undamaged and strong, in the same way if the roots of craving are not wholly uprooted sorrows will come again and again"
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