after reading OpticusWrangler's report found here I can't shake the concept from my mind. is it true? has anyone else sensed this informational entity? Phillip K. Dick seemed to believe that certain consciousness could be held within pure information. Archetypes... infinite concepts of people, places, things and interactions with all of them. The Child The Hero The Great Mother The Wise old man or Sage The Trickster or Fox The Devil or Lucifer The Scarecrow(THE MAN IN THE TRENCHCOAT!!!) The Mentor are they linked? does something feed off of our awareness? I just can't stop thinking about it. *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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Yes, I can sense it. Anyone can but they often do not understand. In the simplest sense, it is you. All the archetypes are bound together, they are the blueprint/framework for experience in our galaxy, the methodology for consciousness to evolve back to source which some have termed The Great Central Sun. I haven't read the report yet, just the first few paragraphs,but I shall. It seems interesting...and I have the intuition that there is some good information in there. What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself For sheer delight of being And plunged into numberless trillions of forms So that it might Find Itself Innumerably. -Sri Aubobindo
Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
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Read it a while back and it was a VERY informative and beautifully written narrative i need to re-read this! thanks stevowitz and OpticusWrangler!!
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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This essay is very powerful... Quote:Opti seems to exist mostly in imaginal space. Human symbolic thought seems to be linked at an archetypical subconscious level as a “collective consciousness”, to use a Jungian term. All entities that use symbols to sustain informational structures have a presence within hyperspace. ... An interesting aspect of imaginal space is the structures that do not appear human at all. There seems to be a connective scaffolding within that space that exerts tension between discrete things, connecting them together or holding them opposite, as if, in hyperspace, it is the relationship between objects that is the primary reality, with the objects existing only as reference points. Iyam trying to accept the idea of nouns as abstract, and verbs as actuality. Thanks for the link. Edit: if you like this essay, don't miss out on Philip K. Dick's VALIS trilogy (VALIS, Divine Invasion, The Transmigration of Timothy Archer). Those books are truly extraordinary.
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Currently grabbing all the PKD books...very exciting concept. wonder where opti will show up next  *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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OpticusWrangler wrote:A story to be preserved and resurrected across the expanse of the universe down to every detail, including the characters, is the mechanism for heaven. This is one of the deepest insights I gained from the psychedelic experience, but I couldn't find a way to put it into words. Heaven exists as a common destination of various stories stored in hyperspace. We find our personal entry points and then follow through the steps, riding on the associations, passing through the jumpgates, which have all been there for an eternity, serving this task alone, as artifacts of human culture, as the immortal body of Opti.
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stevowitz: I'm so glad you will read those books... esp. Divine Invasion. I remember you are a Christian... I hope you will get to the same deep waters as I did when I read that book. It's a story about the psychopathology of God.
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OpticusWrangler wrote:The Other is that part that is not us that defines what we are. 
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OpticusWrangler wrote:It seemed that we were not doing much more than just collecting, although I was always amused by the exuberance the pirates had toward their occupation; as if we always on some grand hunt. Every time we retrieved a beady skein, they would display it proudly for my approval, but they really all looked identical and unimportant. Finally, during an idle moment back at my tent under the crag, I asked the diminutive Elf girl about the precise nature of the tight rows of glyph-covered beads. She demonstrated, in her shy manner, that the units were separate, entirely contained information structures. Entire worlds are held in stasisby a row of code within a little seed. She opened one, like a tiny nut, to show me an entire family of strange sentient creatures. Vast quantities of information are packed densely into such innocuous packages. I learned about the anemone people. After that, I felt horrified at the scope of the raider’s consumption, and I wanted no more of their life, attractive and elegant as it is. We ate lives, and stole lineages, consisting of huge information structures, condensed into tiny portable packets of infinite value that can be opened up and decoded. They continue to give me skeins of code when I see them, but for a long time I tried to refuse them. They are quick and unsympathetic, and they insist upon sharing with me; they clain iyam as of them. Eventually, I acknowledged to myself that everyone eats, and I feel a little better about absorbing the awareness of other sentient beings, but I no longer visit the pirate mantids in their golden city. I find this to be an attempt to describe a very high level of reality, even beyond the creator Gods... The place where entities eat or harvest realities... I was witness to that on some occasions, and I was always terrified by the mechanistic nature of it, the complete lack of human ethics... that aliens have a completely different mindset. And what was the most disturbing is that this is perfectly right as it is. A praying mantis biting off her mate's head, animals eating their offspring, the secret life of the insect hive... Analogies to this, all very hard to swallow. One can only do it by completely getting rid of body identification. This is not that sweet kind of spirituality which we see in western culture... This is the dark side.
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OpticusWrangler wrote:Opti, you feed upon human attention. That’s why we need red. We only need green so we can have enough red for you.
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OpticusWrangler's report is a work of art.
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its funny after a few intense years of work with this stuff it seems all roads lead to this. I was pondering the palpable feeling that this consciouness is recieving something from us. Simplified its a highly evolved thing that gives us love and a feeling of total connection etc. We , in return give it its existance by experiencing it. An energy organism network that feeds on our consciousness. wow!! I am in this exact place with it right now. The question is once we know what it is will the experience change? I get he feeling its either pissed off that i've figured it out or its testing me to see what i can take. because lately its been kicking my ass hard. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Arthur C. Clarke http://vimeo.com/32001208
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Felnik wrote:
its funny after a few intense years of work with this stuff it seems all roads lead to this. I was pondering the palpable feeling that this consciouness is recieving something from us. Simplified its a highly evolved thing that gives us love and a feeling of total connection etc. We , in return give it its existance by experiencing it.
An energy organism network that feeds on our consciousness. wow!! I am in this exact place with it right now.
The question is once we know what it is will the experience change? I get he feeling its either pissed off that i've figured it out or its testing me to see what i can take. because lately its been kicking my ass hard.
You hit the nail right on the head. I don't think its pissed off, the more aware of it you are the more you "feed" it. It is testing you to see how much you can take, but you can only be tested once you are aware. Testing leads to growth, and we all need a good ass kicking every once in a while. What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself For sheer delight of being And plunged into numberless trillions of forms So that it might Find Itself Innumerably. -Sri Aubobindo
Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
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Saidin wrote:Felnik wrote:
its funny after a few intense years of work with this stuff it seems all roads lead to this. I was pondering the palpable feeling that this consciouness is recieving something from us. Simplified its a highly evolved thing that gives us love and a feeling of total connection etc. We , in return give it its existance by experiencing it.
An energy organism network that feeds on our consciousness. wow!! I am in this exact place with it right now.
The question is once we know what it is will the experience change? I get he feeling its either pissed off that i've figured it out or its testing me to see what i can take. because lately its been kicking my ass hard.
You hit the nail right on the head. I don't think its pissed off, the more aware of it you are the more you "feed" it. It is testing you to see how much you can take, but you can only be tested once you are aware. Testing leads to growth, and we all need a good ass kicking every once in a while. yeeeup Couldn't agree more. I'm also feeling this at the moment...probably why I felt the need to share Opti's report... or maybe I'm just a tool of HIS...spreading himself all over your psyche's who knows? *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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Opti is a very common archetype, and is a monkey wrench in the rational scientist's view that we tend to anthropomorphize much of the experience. I mean we all go in there expecting elves and I get this?
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Godspark wrote:Opti is a very common archetype, and is a monkey wrench in the rational scientist's view that we tend to anthropomorphize much of the experience. I mean we all go in there expecting elves and I get this? so you've experienced Opti's presence? *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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 The Spicish Clown Devil I just found.
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Felnik wrote:The question is once we know what it is will the experience change? I get the feeling its either pissed off that i've figured it out or its testing me to see what i can take. because lately its been kicking my ass hard. Dunno, but I believe it's some kind of God who wants to wake up - become incarnate on/as our planet Earth. Human beings are (or will be) its neurons. The stories we dream over here provide the scaffolding for its manifestation.
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I would definitely say that every person that acknowledges Opti or a form of Opti, Like P.K. Dick did...will be potentiating his existence. Then he becomes that much bigger... *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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I read this maybe 7-8 months ago it is quite complicated in the sense that the writer even has trouble describing such a thing. Just as when you enter hyperspace and try to bring back knowledge, not many will understand, and those who venture even further like he has may not even understand. Opticus I believe could possibly exist, between dimensions, but if so, is HE the only one, or would there be an autonomous existence of one elsewhere we would not even have access to encounter. It seems he is not a supreme being, though, that God would be considered. I need to re-read this short story. It's so very odd. "That which I avoid I will become a slave to, that which I confront I will master."
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